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Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.

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ScreamingMeMe · 21/11/2022 19:02

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SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:27

Supposedly. So why was she taking photos at a SFW event 5 months ago?

twitter.com/itsmeldaley/status/1550942776984059905?s=46&t=SA8It3RSgcINZOT-o_7wVQ

Helleofabore · 25/11/2022 14:28

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:03

For some reason people were desperate to stir the pot in Brighton before the SFW event. This journalist friend of KJK was messaging TRAs inviting them to come along and make videos. She obviously wanted the TRAs to cause maximum carnage in Brighton to make a good story.

I think these people forget there are some of us who have to live here and we are the ones having to deal with the aftermath.

Why did you say she is a friend of KJK’s?

Who told you that?

What proof do you have to make that claim?

Did the claim come from Brighton Feminists or TRAs?

This is getting more and more bizarre!

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:29

Because there were loads of TRAs there?? Maybe she was hoping for some violent feminist action?

The point is, how on earth can you point this towards KJ and it somehow being her doing?

Helleofabore · 25/11/2022 14:30

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:27

Supposedly. So why was she taking photos at a SFW event 5 months ago?

twitter.com/itsmeldaley/status/1550942776984059905?s=46&t=SA8It3RSgcINZOT-o_7wVQ

What at an open event?

What part of any person can just walk up as close as they want and take pictures??

We have been over this on these threads soooo many times!!!!

Does Ives being at a LGB Alliance conference taking photos mean that Ives is now a supporter of LGB Alliance?

Where on earth is this fucking disconnect coming from?

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:33

I am not pointing this at KJK. I am saying that EJ Rosetta was trying to stir up trouble in Brighton.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2022 14:33

And the same for after party activities. I reckon someone just danced up to KJK and took a photo. There is no proof that the person who took this photo is a friend of KJK.

It is all just accusations without proof of the relationship. So bring it.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2022 14:33

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:33

I am not pointing this at KJK. I am saying that EJ Rosetta was trying to stir up trouble in Brighton.

You said she was a friend of KJK.

Again, who told you that. Be honest.

DrLouiseJMoody · 25/11/2022 14:34

Yes, I believe it's a pattern of behaviour. This, for example, was sent to me privately and once I published (because, presumably, I was supposed to be intimidated) named parties denied knowledge. I raised concerns, privately, based upon my own experience and six others. The response was "Yes, we know but please shut up for the good of the movement" and when I didn't I was threatened, lied about, had my wife's death weaponised (it's not remotely sane to blog I was "estranged" from my wife and DM people that I'm a domestic abuser), and two "feminists" befriend Stephanie Hayden to try and harm my case.

When I speak about such things I'm told I have a "grudge", lying, and acting out after being rejected (who on earth would want to associate with people sending messages like the one below?). I am guilty of saying unwise things at times. I am not guilty of the abusive behaviour evidenced below.

I'm pretty much OK with it these days but I see the same behaviour towards others and, yes, feel obliged to speak up incase some unthinkingly believe what is said about KJK and others. Some lies cause very real damage, in some cases to vulnerable women, and deserve to be called out.

Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.
PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:34

TRAs advertised Brighton for months on Twitter and FB. I don't think they needed this obvious shit stir to bring attention to it.

TinselAngel · 25/11/2022 14:38

So we're now implying KJK brought the Brighton protest on herself by getting her journalist friends to go undercover and stir up the TRAs? It's like rules of misogyny bingo here.

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:40

Also a journo friend who has been writing for Huff Post and Pink News for years. A very deep mole.

beastlyslumber · 25/11/2022 14:41

TinselAngel · 25/11/2022 14:38

So we're now implying KJK brought the Brighton protest on herself by getting her journalist friends to go undercover and stir up the TRAs? It's like rules of misogyny bingo here.

I didn't think this thread could get any weirder. Or that Sappho could get more gaslighty.

Do you know you're doing it Sappho? "She's KJK'S friend" "I never said it was to do with KJK" ???

I've known toddlers who are more convincing.

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:41

I like the Twitter thread EJ Rosetta wrote about JK Rowling but it definitely seems like she was trying to cause shit by messaging TRAs before the event.

TinselAngel · 25/11/2022 14:45

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:41

I like the Twitter thread EJ Rosetta wrote about JK Rowling but it definitely seems like she was trying to cause shit by messaging TRAs before the event.

TRAs encourage each other to go to a protest, shocker.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2022 14:46

Sappho

Sorry. You don’t get out of saying this was a ‘friend’ of KJK’s without proof.

Has this come from the FB group?
Or someone associated with it?

This is quite a serious allegation you have just made.

Either someone has told you something, in which case who?, or you have made this allegation in a dishonest way.

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:47

Well she definitely was. She's a journalist who wants a load of action to get the story on first.

But why suspect KJ is behind it?

It's quite the bad-fath leap.

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:55

Okay point taken. Happy to make a correction.

For some reason people were desperate to stir the pot in Brighton before the SFW event. This journalist friend of KJK who appeared to have been taking photos at KJK's SFW event back in July was messaging TRAs inviting them to come along and make videos. She obviously wanted the TRAs to cause maximum carnage in Brighton to make a good story.

MsMcWibble · 25/11/2022 14:56

I see the conversation has moved on while I've been out, and don't want to derail but will just say this before I bow out.
I didn't bring up the subject of Sappho's partner. She did. No one else has to judge Sappho because of this connection. I will continue to hold my own views. I know how difficult it is to maintain a not very close friendship with someone who is on the other side of this debate. Being with someone every day who wanted to deny women their rights would be impossible for me.
I still think it is hypocritical to judge others for their connections while maintaining such a close connection themselves.
My doubts about the intentions of this poster have increased.
That is all.

TinFoilHatty · 25/11/2022 14:57

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beastlyslumber · 25/11/2022 15:01

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Especially when we can literally scroll up the thread and see you lying.

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 15:02

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:55

Okay point taken. Happy to make a correction.

For some reason people were desperate to stir the pot in Brighton before the SFW event. This journalist friend of KJK who appeared to have been taking photos at KJK's SFW event back in July was messaging TRAs inviting them to come along and make videos. She obviously wanted the TRAs to cause maximum carnage in Brighton to make a good story.

Your still casually implying (her being there at a S4W event in July) that she's with KJK.

You know journalists follow the story don't you? They often want something to happen. Again, we're back to public event, public place etc.

Again, I'll say (as I hang out on Twitter mainly) the TRAs we're advertising their counter protest from after Bristol. They needed no help to drum up interest.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/11/2022 15:03

A person who can’t be honest with themselves is unable to be honest with others

and therefore may be more trouble than they’re worth to deal with

just sayin

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 15:06

I thought the pictures taken by E J Rosetta were at a private SFW party not an open event?

Was the SFW in fact an open party open to TRAs? If so my bad.

pattihews · 25/11/2022 15:07

Yes, sleeping with the enemy — enemy because they would erase my sex, my sex-based rights and my right to be same-sex attracted — would not be possible for me.

Sappho's flying a false flag.

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 15:10

Im not sure what pictures you mean?

How it normally works is, there's a public event. Women gather, some speak. Afterwards, word goes around as to where everyone is going for a drink afterwards. Not really a private event. No 'invitations' are issued.

I believe things have become tighter since because in Bristol we were kettled in the pub by Police while TRAs surrounded us. Often KJ doesn't attend to try and not attract the worst attention.

Not sure what else to say.

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