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Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.

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ScreamingMeMe · 21/11/2022 19:02

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CompleteGinasaur · 23/11/2022 13:09

MsPinkMarshmallow · 23/11/2022 13:07

I contributed to Julie Bindel's crowdfunder. And also to Rachel Meade and Jo Phoenix and Raquel Rosario Sanchez and Kathleen Stock and Allison Bailey and Maya Forstater.

I'm fine with Julie not agreeing with KJK. I believed in all the above campaigns. And I respect KJK for what she does.

Yes. All of the above. And Sarah Summers too.

NancyDrawed · 23/11/2022 13:11

I donate to various crowdfunders.

My decision to do so depends on if I have money to spare at that point and whether I believe in the cause rather than the personal friendships of the person bringing the case.

So to answer your question Sapphos, no, I do not think I have to 'pick a side'.

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 13:15

I admire that attitude @MsPinkMarshmallow

For the record if KJK did a crowd funder for something I believed in I would definitely donate.

MsPinkMarshmallow · 23/11/2022 13:17

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 13:15

I admire that attitude @MsPinkMarshmallow

For the record if KJK did a crowd funder for something I believed in I would definitely donate.

Me too. And she is definitely getting a lot of publicity and bringing awareness of the TRA movement so bring it on.

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 13:21

I donated to JB's crowdfunder along with almost everyone else's. However, those women who have now declared KJK an enemy won't be getting any more of my money. Having different views and tactics is fine if I still support the cause/goal. Monstering a woman and lying/slandering her, calling me a racist for supporting her etc means NO, I won't be giving you any more of my hard earned. Women are not a cow to be milked for cash and then turned into mince when it suits you.

CompleteGinasaur · 23/11/2022 13:24

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 13:21

I donated to JB's crowdfunder along with almost everyone else's. However, those women who have now declared KJK an enemy won't be getting any more of my money. Having different views and tactics is fine if I still support the cause/goal. Monstering a woman and lying/slandering her, calling me a racist for supporting her etc means NO, I won't be giving you any more of my hard earned. Women are not a cow to be milked for cash and then turned into mince when it suits you.

Spot on, beastlyslumber. And I'd like to add that it was precisely this prescriptive attitude that made me leave the Labour Party in the first place.

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 13:31

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 13:21

I donated to JB's crowdfunder along with almost everyone else's. However, those women who have now declared KJK an enemy won't be getting any more of my money. Having different views and tactics is fine if I still support the cause/goal. Monstering a woman and lying/slandering her, calling me a racist for supporting her etc means NO, I won't be giving you any more of my hard earned. Women are not a cow to be milked for cash and then turned into mince when it suits you.

Julie Bindel's beef with KJK goes back a long way. I believe she even called her a 'thick feck' at one point.

I'm glad this didn't put you off donating. It's good to separate the people from the principles.

Sugerfree · 23/11/2022 13:32

Scyla · 21/11/2022 19:23

The woman on the phone was very chatty and friendly considering she was talking to a hate crimer!

Yes, well said. Kellie JK is an example to us all. Brave, caring and common sense driven. The fanatic on the other end, has been indoctrinated into a cult.

Go Kellie..x

Sugerfree · 23/11/2022 13:33

CompleteGinasaur · 23/11/2022 13:24

Spot on, beastlyslumber. And I'd like to add that it was precisely this prescriptive attitude that made me leave the Labour Party in the first place.

Same here.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/11/2022 13:35

Julie Bindel's beef with KJK goes back a long way. I believe she even called her a 'thick feck' at one point.

Which isn't true. It's a bizarre accusation.

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 13:43

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/11/2022 13:35

Julie Bindel's beef with KJK goes back a long way. I believe she even called her a 'thick feck' at one point.

Which isn't true. It's a bizarre accusation.

There was a whole thread about it

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3797704-Julie-Bindel-bullying-Posie

Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.
RoseslnTheHospital · 23/11/2022 13:59

I should imagine that @Ereshkigalangcleg meant that the accusation that KJK is thick is a bizarre accusation when it's very obvious she is not. Not that it's a bizarre accusation to say that JB once called her thick, iyswim. Ereshkigalangcleg was on that thread that you linked.

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 14:05

Oh right fair enough.

Yes calling her thick was unnecessary. The tweet has been deleted so JB must regret it.

2plus2equals5 · 23/11/2022 14:05

I have limited money so the main factors in me donating are how important the case is (I donated to MF and AB as it seemed clear they would be important legal cases) and how vulnerable the women bringing the case are / how in need of the money.

I like KJKs merch because I can donate to a good cause and also buy Xmas pressies (which I need to get anyway) at the same time.

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 23/11/2022 14:06

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 13:43

And this from a woman who writes for the Daily Mail.

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 14:07

Tbh if I'd seen that at the time I wouldn't have donated to JB. I'm not wealthy and I can't afford to give money to people who commit this kind of vitriolic bullying. If she thinks KJK is thick presumably she has no respect for anyone who follows her, either. I never thought JB was especially smart herself and now I think she's a bully. She's one of the reasons I no longer identify as a feminist.

FOJN · 23/11/2022 15:03

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 23/11/2022 14:06

And this from a woman who writes for the Daily Mail.

And has shared platform debating Milo Yiannopoulos more than once. I believe he regards her as one of the only "good" feminists. Presumably I can condemn JB as a shit feminist because she has received an endorsement from a known right wing troll.

Helleofabore · 23/11/2022 15:08

FOJN · 23/11/2022 15:03

And has shared platform debating Milo Yiannopoulos more than once. I believe he regards her as one of the only "good" feminists. Presumably I can condemn JB as a shit feminist because she has received an endorsement from a known right wing troll.

I have pointed this out before, as have others. It gets ignored.

I think that JB has said things I disagree with. Yet…I appreciate what she does. Because that is an adult approach to life.

If she focused on monstering another woman the way the Brighton Feminist group has and crossing over to the fb page… I would be reconsidering just how much I appreciated her contribution. Of course I would.

But she doesn’t. She occasionally has a go at KJK but she doesn’t have a page dedicated to KJK’s sins or continue to monster her on social media to the extent that others have.

Helleofabore · 23/11/2022 15:15

The other issue that many women have is that some of the Brighton Feminists have form for ‘gatekeeping’ real feminism.

There is nothing feminist about monstering a woman who is working towards the same end goal on an issue because you are prejudiced against her.

The hypocrisy that just cannot be denied by a breezy ‘this is just women expressing their opinion’ is very concerning.

TinFoilHatty · 23/11/2022 15:24

I think we have been successfully diverted from the thread topic, police being weaponised against women.

We know Posie does not describe herself as a feminist yet she is held up and cut down as if she does.

The purity spiral is to be stepped off, surely.

HatefulHaberdashery · 23/11/2022 15:37

MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/11/2022 19:57

I see the Mail are covering this. The comments know precisely where the problem is - and it's not with KJK.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11456405/Police-threaten-arrest-womens-rights-campaigner-doesnt-attend-voluntary-interview.html

More excellent sunlight.

The DM aren't doing too bad on the Sex and Gender stuff: They even have a 'Womens Rights' Page 😀!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/womens-rights/index.html

TinFoilHatty · 23/11/2022 15:47

Cor, who knew? Nice one DM.

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 16:02

Tbh I have similar feelings about KJK and the Daily Mail.

The casual attitude to racism is problematic but they have both produced excellent content on women's rights.

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 16:05

"casual attitude to racism."

Not as much as you have a casual attitude towards monstering another woman.

Helleofabore · 23/11/2022 16:09

Can you please just tell us straight what KJK has done that shows a ‘casual attitude towards racism’, Sappho

I am really trying to give people the benefit of the doubt here.

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