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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottish Government don't allow suffragette colours at Stage 2 GRA meeting

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Waitwhat23 · 15/11/2022 10:23

The Committee are currently meeting at the Scottish Parliament today to discuss the suggested amendments to the GRA (Stage 2.) A feminist has been told to remove her scarf (knitted in stripes of suffragette colours - no other slogans, badges etc) or leave. She chose to leave. Meanwhile rainbow lanyards are being worn by Committee members who are discussing the amendments.

twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1592459534504632320?s=20&t=nSi2E5-3kF1EMpJo7CtvQg

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RealFeminist · 15/11/2022 13:44

WagnersFourthSymphony · 15/11/2022 12:19

I'm sure this picture must be photoshopped
. 😉

THEY CUN HUV VOTES SO LONG AS THEYRE THE RIGHT KIND

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 13:45

Greens. Arielle Burgess, Maggie Chapman, Ross Greer. IIRC.

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 13:46
  • sorry, the three people in the photo proudly wearing rainbow lanyards/trans flag colours.
ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 13:48

Ariane Burgess, my mistake.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/11/2022 13:50

I wouldn't want to see any of those lanyards or the tie disallowed. Everyone should have an equal right to representation in U.K. parliamentary bodies.

It might be interesting for someone to go in wearing a mix of items, and see if all, none or just the ones symbolising women's right to representation were verboten.

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 15/11/2022 13:56

Since they seem to be forbidding women to wear suffrage colours, would it be a bit too subtle if they all turned up wearing this instead?
www.scotlandshop.com/tartan-finder/troon/shop-the-look?tartan=Troon

nilsmousehammer · 15/11/2022 13:58

Well I think we know now that when we heard 'oh just shut up and vote it through now, and then we'll fix all the issues at the amendment stage'

They were lying their manipulative little heads off to take advantage of people's trust in actual system and democracy and responsibility to the general public. Thing is, you can only ever pull that trick once before you've exposed yourselves very clearly for what you are.

RealFeminist · 15/11/2022 14:19

PURPLES FINE IF YOURE PALS WI THE RIGHT FOLK

Scottish Government don't allow suffragette colours at Stage 2 GRA meeting
ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 14:21

nilsmousehammer · 15/11/2022 13:58

Well I think we know now that when we heard 'oh just shut up and vote it through now, and then we'll fix all the issues at the amendment stage'

They were lying their manipulative little heads off to take advantage of people's trust in actual system and democracy and responsibility to the general public. Thing is, you can only ever pull that trick once before you've exposed yourselves very clearly for what you are.

Scotland is fucked.

I very much hope that Labour - and any women down south who think of voting Labour - are watching this closely.

Labour reassured women, prior to this vote, that while they were aware of various issues, they would all be sorted out in Amendments.

We can see how that's going.

Labour's stance remains, as far as I can tell, 'yes, we will protect single sex spaces, and transwomen are female so can use them'.

DON'T let them fob you off, or you'll end up where we are. Scunnered, and censured for saying so.

Janie143 · 15/11/2022 14:23

RealFeminist · 15/11/2022 14:19

PURPLES FINE IF YOURE PALS WI THE RIGHT FOLK

So it fine when it suits

ErrolTheDragon · 15/11/2022 14:24

I guess Sturgeon thought a century was enough.

The actions in this committee today have clearly demonstrated that the work of the suffragettes isn't done and dusted.

PronounssheRa · 15/11/2022 14:25

Labour's stance remains, as far as I can tell, 'yes, we will protect single sex spaces, and transwomen are female so can use them'

This needs repeating over and over, when Labour talk about single sex spaces its a linguistic sleight of hand.

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 14:28

PronounssheRa · 15/11/2022 14:25

Labour's stance remains, as far as I can tell, 'yes, we will protect single sex spaces, and transwomen are female so can use them'

This needs repeating over and over, when Labour talk about single sex spaces its a linguistic sleight of hand.

Yes. It's plain old bullshit, wearing a bowtie.

Waitwhat23 · 15/11/2022 14:44

Interesting development...

twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1592521375222099969?s=20&t=L3wTtjxO8MJyoOyHtNXEJg

I bet they didn't like having to do that!

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ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 14:45

Not prompted by any members of the committee? So - who did prompt it?

nilsmousehammer · 15/11/2022 14:46

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 14:28

Yes. It's plain old bullshit, wearing a bowtie.

That.

Useful to have it confirmed. Trust the left about as far as you can spit.

nilsmousehammer · 15/11/2022 14:47

Waitwhat23 · 15/11/2022 14:44

Interesting development...

twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1592521375222099969?s=20&t=L3wTtjxO8MJyoOyHtNXEJg

I bet they didn't like having to do that!

Quite. It was huge error in the 'when people show you who they are' and PR way. Fucking massive.

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 14:47

Given that 'suffragette' and 'scottish parliament' have been trending on Twitter, I presume this is damage limitation mode.

Somebody gave the orders to ban women from wearing purple.

I want to know how that happened.

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 14:49

Scottish Political Editor at the Herald calls it a 'farce'. I think that's too generous.

twitter.com/HTScotPol/status/1592487345663905792

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2022 14:50

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23126529.presiding-officer-apologies-scarfgate-row/

'Wearing a purple, green and white tartan scarf, Tory MSP Rachel Hamilton welcomed the Presiding Officer’s statement.'

Thank you, Rachel.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/11/2022 14:53

Oh yeah, it was an error all right.

Did the idiots think women would wheesht?

Onthecuspofabreakthrough · 15/11/2022 15:01

Good grief

Waitwhat23 · 15/11/2022 15:04

By the fab Mole at the Counter -

twitter.com/moleatthedoor/status/1592515474885312512?s=20&t=wc3_8PTDegxWmSTXtwuLKg

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pepperminttaste · 15/11/2022 15:14

Just when you think you can't be any more embarrassed and appalled by the SG.