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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling hits out at first feminist Sturgeon

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JanieAllen · 11/11/2022 09:37

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-hits-out-at-first-feminist-sturgeon-over-trans-laws-2tz8mj386

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FrancescaContini · 11/11/2022 09:39

Excellent news.

Hoardasurass · 11/11/2022 10:43

Ofcourse they are rushing it through because they know that it can't survive reasoned debate and scrutiny.
We can only hope that enough MSPs come to their senses and vote it down (yes I know we've no hope)

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/11/2022 10:49

Nice

i sincerely hope this will finish Sturgeon off

Altoo · 11/11/2022 11:00

I just can't fathom how/why she's so determined to rush this through without proper scrutiny - surely surely if she's so convinced then why not have the confidence to answer critics.
And if she's not confident how who's got such a hold over her.

I also don't think I could despise a politician more, especially given current and recent WM government!

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:11

To those that think jk rowling is god she’s not her opinion won’t matter at all as the majority of MSPs voted for this by a sizeable amount first round. Therefore yes maybe a couple or so we’re against it it’s still going to go ahead because maybe she feels this is the right thing to do I know shock horror. As Sturgeon says how dare jk rowling accuse her of not being a feminist when you see what sturgeon has done in the past www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-msps-rebel-scottish-government-28344566

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:13

Hoardasurass · 11/11/2022 10:43

Ofcourse they are rushing it through because they know that it can't survive reasoned debate and scrutiny.
We can only hope that enough MSPs come to their senses and vote it down (yes I know we've no hope)

Really reasoned debate when the majority of msps are in favour of it only seven are not .

Beowulfa · 11/11/2022 11:15

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:11

To those that think jk rowling is god she’s not her opinion won’t matter at all as the majority of MSPs voted for this by a sizeable amount first round. Therefore yes maybe a couple or so we’re against it it’s still going to go ahead because maybe she feels this is the right thing to do I know shock horror. As Sturgeon says how dare jk rowling accuse her of not being a feminist when you see what sturgeon has done in the past www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-msps-rebel-scottish-government-28344566

Please explain how the propose policy benefits women and girls in Scotland.

Happylittlechicken · 11/11/2022 11:21

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:11

To those that think jk rowling is god she’s not her opinion won’t matter at all as the majority of MSPs voted for this by a sizeable amount first round. Therefore yes maybe a couple or so we’re against it it’s still going to go ahead because maybe she feels this is the right thing to do I know shock horror. As Sturgeon says how dare jk rowling accuse her of not being a feminist when you see what sturgeon has done in the past www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-msps-rebel-scottish-government-28344566

how Will making all spaces in Scotland mixed sex benefit women and girls? Surely if NS is such a feminist, she will realise how bad these proposals are for females. There is no part of this reform than benefits women and girls.

FrancescaContini · 11/11/2022 11:23

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:11

To those that think jk rowling is god she’s not her opinion won’t matter at all as the majority of MSPs voted for this by a sizeable amount first round. Therefore yes maybe a couple or so we’re against it it’s still going to go ahead because maybe she feels this is the right thing to do I know shock horror. As Sturgeon says how dare jk rowling accuse her of not being a feminist when you see what sturgeon has done in the past www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-msps-rebel-scottish-government-28344566

I don’t wish to sound rude but if you added some punctuation to your post, it would be more comprehensible and sound less like a stream of consciousness rant.

Jaffacakeorisitabiscuit · 11/11/2022 11:26

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:13

Really reasoned debate when the majority of msps are in favour of it only seven are not .

Sturgeon suffered the largest ever SNP rebellion over the vote. 9 of her own party's MSPs voted against it. For the SNP this is unheard of, so reflects the strength of feeling about the bill. A minister also resigned.

Sturgeon still hasn't answered the question as to what 'living as a woman' entails.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/11/2022 11:29

FrancescaContini · 11/11/2022 11:23

I don’t wish to sound rude but if you added some punctuation to your post, it would be more comprehensible and sound less like a stream of consciousness rant.

Thank god it’s not just me.

I hear punctuation deficient stream of consciousness posts in the voice of the Swedish chef from the Muppets.

And then I feel bad because it’s a bit judgy. But really people, punctuation and paragraphs. Highly recommended 👍👍👍

SallyLockheart · 11/11/2022 11:35

MSPs didn’t have a free vote - if NS was so sure about support, she would make it a free vote with no whip pressure to support the government

Meceme · 11/11/2022 11:48

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:11

To those that think jk rowling is god she’s not her opinion won’t matter at all as the majority of MSPs voted for this by a sizeable amount first round. Therefore yes maybe a couple or so we’re against it it’s still going to go ahead because maybe she feels this is the right thing to do I know shock horror. As Sturgeon says how dare jk rowling accuse her of not being a feminist when you see what sturgeon has done in the past www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-msps-rebel-scottish-government-28344566

What has Nichola Sturgeon done for women 'in the past'? Im struggling to come up with anything...

Meceme · 11/11/2022 11:51

Nicola ... apologies for spelling error.

RhannionKPSS · 11/11/2022 11:51

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 11:11

To those that think jk rowling is god she’s not her opinion won’t matter at all as the majority of MSPs voted for this by a sizeable amount first round. Therefore yes maybe a couple or so we’re against it it’s still going to go ahead because maybe she feels this is the right thing to do I know shock horror. As Sturgeon says how dare jk rowling accuse her of not being a feminist when you see what sturgeon has done in the past www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-msps-rebel-scottish-government-28344566

Sturgeon is a failed lawyer who DID NOT take the correct action to protect a woman who engaged her for legal protection.
Sturgeon has form for NOT protecting women and now continues to NOT protect women, girls and children in Scotland.
She is no “ feminist” she is a misogynist, a failure and a disgrace.
Sturgeon and her cronies are a disgrace.

RhannionKPSS · 11/11/2022 11:53

And NO women generally don’t think JKR is god, what a ridiculous comment. We happen to think she a strong, brave woman who has spoken up when so many others have not, and for that, we are thankful.

FunnyTalks · 11/11/2022 11:56

Sturgeon self identified as a feminist, that's what.

These days it's all about virtue signalling and what you say.

Actions - such as giving a voice to women without a platform, setting up charities for women and children, paying tax rather than using tax havens - they're not so fashionable right now.

FrancescaContini · 11/11/2022 11:58

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/11/2022 11:29

Thank god it’s not just me.

I hear punctuation deficient stream of consciousness posts in the voice of the Swedish chef from the Muppets.

And then I feel bad because it’s a bit judgy. But really people, punctuation and paragraphs. Highly recommended 👍👍👍

I don’t think it’s judgy at all. If someone has a clear point to make, using punctuation will help with clarity and understanding. Zero punctuation means people stop reading halfway through as they don’t understand what is being said. They lose interest and patience.

I actually see my previous post as a helpful tip 😃

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 12:11

Beowulfa · 11/11/2022 11:15

Please explain how the propose policy benefits women and girls in Scotland.

It doesn’t have to does it but in the past sturgeon has done lots for women not everything has to benefit one section of society this bill however will help trans people and that doesn’t impact on women that they can get verified on passports etc easier it’s not self id

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 12:12

Happylittlechicken · 11/11/2022 11:21

how Will making all spaces in Scotland mixed sex benefit women and girls? Surely if NS is such a feminist, she will realise how bad these proposals are for females. There is no part of this reform than benefits women and girls.

This isn’t about spaces this is about getting a certificate easy so making trans people getting passports etc in their preferred gender easier

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 12:15

FrancescaContini · 11/11/2022 11:23

I don’t wish to sound rude but if you added some punctuation to your post, it would be more comprehensible and sound less like a stream of consciousness rant.

There are full stops or are you just goading me?

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 12:16

Meceme · 11/11/2022 11:48

What has Nichola Sturgeon done for women 'in the past'? Im struggling to come up with anything...

Then one thing that stands out for me is she made period products free for women in schools etc. she did that first .

lifeturnsonadime · 11/11/2022 12:17

Freespirit42 · 11/11/2022 12:16

Then one thing that stands out for me is she made period products free for women in schools etc. she did that first .

And now girls on their periods may decline to go to school because they have to share facilities with any boy who claims to be one.

lifeturnsonadime · 11/11/2022 12:18

It's quite obvious why this is being rushed through.

She's trying to please the boys.

partystress · 11/11/2022 12:19

What @lifeturnsonadime said. Handing out pads and tampons does not a feminist make if the toilets in which you would use them are no longer a refuge from penis-bearers.

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