JK Rowling hits out at first feminist Sturgeon

[JanieAllen]

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-hits-out-at-first-feminist-sturgeon-over-trans-laws-2tz8mj386

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You guys are obsessed with this one issue though? Even if she did loads of stuff for women it would be the trans issue that annoys you? Even so many that are happy in America to vote Republican as they don’t like trans when they are affecting abortion for women this obsession with one issue means many seem to be siding with parties that don’t even give a frig about women full stop .

The Scottish government didn't make period products free for women. They made them free in certain circumstances for 'people' who need them. I don't think the words girl or woman was used anywhere in the legislation. 'Nuff said.

This isn’t about spaces this is about getting a certificate easy so making trans people getting passports etc in their preferred gender easier

You haven't really done your research have you? Of course it's about spaces. Men will have easier access to women's spaces. Transwomen are men. Unfortunately we can't tell the difference between the ones with a genuine dysphoria who just want to live their lives causing no problems to anyone, and the ones who want to harm us, no matter how they dress or present. Hence why sex based spaces exist.

You really can't see the safeguarding issues with making it easier for men to say they are women, no questions asked? Really?

Even if she did loads of stuff for women it would be the trans issue that annoys you?

It's a woman's rights issue.

Why don't you think women, as a sex class, should have rights?

Because it’s not a woman’s right issue at all as there are women like me that don’t see trans people affecting my rights at all. I am not scared of trans women using the toilets etc it doesn’t need to clash at all, what many of you don’t realise is there are many women on my side to that don’t see it affecting us at all.

Furthermore when I see supposedly feminists on here say they will vote tory because of their stance on the trans issue when they are rowing back on other womens rights especially having many pro life ministers beats me.

That’s such stupid logic.
There are many rights issues that don’t effect me personally but I’m not so vain as to think I speak for everyone

So @Freespirit42 how exactly do WOMEN benefit from allowing males in our single sex spaces.

Why do you put the wishes males who identify as women above the NEEDS of other women?

SNP MSP's don't get a free vote ever- they have to vote according to the party line (or Kim Jong Sturgeons demands) so 9 of them rebelling is a massive massive thing.
This will hopefully be the end for her (amongst the numerous other scandals building around her)

Oh but you guys do don’t you? You guys say you speak for women all the bloody time and then assume others like me are men or hand maidens. You want to hear womens voices not ours apparantly?

Okay. It doesn’t affect you. You’re not bothered about it. Great! You’re free to tell us about it (but please do try and use some punctuation…)

Many of us are bothered, though. Your NOT being bothered doesn’t cancel out other women/people BEING bothered. Okay?

They all do that the tories whip their ministers hence why the other week they were being accused of bullying their ministers in to voting a particular way it’s not just a snp thing

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.scotsman.com/regions/edinburgh-fife-and-lothians/female-spaces-need-better-protection-after-trans-woman-sex-assault-girl-say-campaigners-140883%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjulNDZkKb7AhUOEcAKHQ3nCasQtwJ6BAgcEAE&usg=AOvVaw0EyzI6jYL5rxLspCqicwnu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Assault by trans woman in women's toilet

I am not scared of trans women using the toilets etc it doesn’t need to clash at all, what many of you don’t realise is there are many women on my side to that don’t see it affecting us at all.

So just because you are not bothered, every woman has to also be not bothered. Why does the feelings of a man matter more than a woman's?

What about vulnerable women in prison having to share with a transwomen? What about rape crisis centres? Why should those women have to accept a man in those spaces?

There's no other area in life where you can identify your way into something such as this one. I wonder why.

You want to hear womens voices not ours apparantly?

I'm not that keen on hearing the voices of women who are determined to give away women's rights to favour males.

I'm not that keen on hearing the voices of women who don't give a stuff about the impact that this has on women and girls.

I just don't understand it. What has made you of the belief that you must put the males first even if it harms your own sex class?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/schoolgirls-rejecting-mixed-toilets-over-boys-bad-behaviour-vcgcrlxv5

Yeah but ther are many things people are bothered about, however we don’t make policy to suit everyone do we? I am sue racists are bothered that we have loads of non whites but we can’t say oh let’s make a town that’s white to appease them now can we? However if a minority of people could have their life improved and made to feel comfortable and not.be stigmatised why can’t we? Everyone talks about negatives but they don’t talk about the umpteen women aka trans women that don’t cause any issues at all,

Your analogy is senseless and your writing style is exhausting. I’ll leave you to rant on.

I wouldn’t let boys use girls toilets but trans girls yes not just run of the mill boys at all and surely teachers know if there are any trans kids at school or not

Was going to be less polite but would be futile. Yet to hear of a coherent, intelligent argument from a TRA. I live in hope.

Omg you guys are grammar Nazis that’s all you guys do pick on folks like me in this group. People can read my posts very well thanks,

But not at the expense of 50% of the population.

Sturgeon will be speaking at the Chambers of Commerce Annual Address in Glasgow on the evening of the 17th of November. Just saying..

not on every vote they don't though. With the SNP it is a condition of membership that they never criticise the party or its decisions or go against the party line. They have to vote as one as instructed.
Hopefully Kate Forbes will resign over it as is rumoured as it will go against her Christian beliefs.

There is absolutely no pressing need for the legislation to be rushed through by a particular date. It is being rushed to avoid debate and scrutiny.
Nippy is no feminist.

What's a "run of the mill" boy, and how can we tell the difference between one, and a trans girl?