JK Rowling hits out at first feminist Sturgeon

[JanieAllen]

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-hits-out-at-first-feminist-sturgeon-over-trans-laws-2tz8mj386

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AYE BUT NAEBODYD GO TO ALL THAT HASSLE

WELL HARDLY EMBDY

NO MANY FOLK, ANYWAY

ONLY REALLY DETERMINED PERSONS!

2 weeks you chancer. It’s 2 weeks and a weekend before we have our freedom to be our true selves 🥹

Only people who identify as a feminist would believe that males can magically become female.
Cis feminists know better.

Some woman who wants to use unisex toilets does not have the right to give away my right to single sex spaces.

Just because you don't care doesn't mean your choices override mine.

No, I absolutely refuse to use what are in practice unisex toilets with a woman sign on the door so some blokes can pretend anyone thinks he is something other than what he can never cease to be.

Yes, I feel it strongly enough I'd see the High Street go down in flames before I put a penny into the till of any shop who let men in the womens changing rooms, even if they have a handwritten note from the King of England & a voice note from my own mother saying 'be kind'.

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Great questions. I look forward to hearing the answer.

Freddie scored an own (female) goal there.

Freddie McConnell was granted a GRC, then gave birth to two children. Surely that renders the GRC useless as giving birth isn't living as a man is it?

well, quite. I think that if you are "living as a man" and have a genuine diagnosis, as a natal woman, of gender dysphoria - but then insist on getting pregnant not once but twice, and giving birth it is a massive stretch to tell me you are living as a man. Frankly, for the sake of the children, i am very happy he isn't allowed to be named as their father, since i assume that they do actually have a father.

I'm happy to call anyone by a name they choose for themselves, and I'm ok with using their preferred prononus if required. I am not happy with "girl mode" and "boy mode" (or variations thereof, yes Bunce, I'm looking at you) because as a dyed in the wool and die-hard 2nd waver, i reject notions of gender as a social construct (aka social bollocks)

With people like Bowie and (as he used to be) Izzard and Julian Clary i was happy that they were embracing the otherness of dressing how they pleased. As a teenager in the 80s i was happy to see people like Duran Duran and so on putting on make-up and doing their thing. It was fucking great and we were beginning to think we had it cracked.

Turns out that it's all a crock of shit and actually it is down to long hair, nail varnish, tits and a dress after all. Oh well. I fail on all those counts to be a woman. Maybe I'll identify as a man and finally get that promotion and pay-rise.

Which the girls at my DC’s school won’t take because you have to go to the office to get them. It’s almost like some who has never met a teenage girl dreamt that one up.

Me too, I'd like these answers as well.

I'd also like to ask @Freespirit42 if you've ever worked with vulnerable women or girls?

The reason I ask is because, if you haven't, then you need to understand it is not just about you and your feelings, but about those more vulnerable than you.

If you have and you still think that trans women should have access to women's spaces then you clearly didn't do it right and I can confidently say that it was the wrong job for you.

Freespirit42 · Today 12:16
" Then one thing that stands out for me is she made period products free for women in schools etc. she did that first ."

" I wouldn’t let boys use girls toilets but trans girls yes not just run of the mill boys at all "

Presumably the trans girls :-/ will be the ones being ever so kind and doing a Jessica Yaneev, in wondering if they should offer to help the young real girls change their tampons?
Amirite @Freespirit42 ??? Eh, amirite??? :-/

Have you actually read how easy it is going to be to ID as a woman ? Just change a few documents and after a few months you can just say you are a woman. And then access all areas that you want ?

you have to ask yourself why ?

it’s not just toilets is it ? Prisons / refuges/ medical situations / school trips / sport / business awards / cause changes to our language . Is a huge bigger picture . Plus even crime figures if the criminal is ID as a woman .

I would really recommend spending 10 mins to listen to the speech by Renee Girlich on womens voices . It really opened my eyes and I can’t claim to understand all of it but is is I think part of the puzzle .

soundcloud.com/womenreadwomen/international-womens-day-speech-by-renee-gerlich

if you agree please share .

No such thing as Trans kids, just confused children.
Your argument is nonsense, you carry on being “ not bothered” and the rest of will carry on being bothered and speaking up especially for those women & children who can’t. 💚🤍💜

You keep telling yourself that trans kids don’t exist when they do? As I say look at Georgia stone who was trans as a kid and still is trans now and many other kids try talking to parents of such kids but you actually won’t? Sure there may be a few confused but most trans adults knew they were trans as kids

most trans adults knew they were trans as kids

You are ignoring the existence of the ones that didn't , some of whom are only women on certain days of the week, who also want to impinge on women's spaces. There are plenty of examples of that.

You are also ignoring the existence of ones who have discovered their trans identity upon being convicted of a crime. There are examples of that in Scotland.

You are trying to get us to feel sorry for 'trans kids' as a way to break our boundaries. We do feel sorry for 'trans kids' for very different reasons to you, especially in Scotland where they will be affirmed despite the findings of the Cass Review.

These children will grow up. Some of them will have been mutilated in the process.

Women matter. So do Trans kids.

Why do you guys focus so much on negatives? Ignoring the positives the reason why so many detransition is many find it hard to live in a society with so many against trans people and many actually go back to being trans but I think there are far more positive stories don’t always focus on negatives.

You also ignore the 'trans kids' who with watchful waiting turn out not to be trans at all but gender questioning/non-conforming or gay.
The Cass report clearly states social transition is not a neutral act but often sets children on a medicalised pathway that is not always in their best interests.

So you know how you sort that out great psychological help and counselling etc but the nhs has a massive waiting list so what is great is more centres now opening to help the trans kids that may or may not be trans. However don’t be saying there isn’t trans kids because quite clearly there is as I say Georgia stone great example of one such case.

Why do you guys focus so much on negatives?

Because the negatives are pretty huge. Healthy breasts cut off and transmen like Freddy Mcconnel not having been told this would have implications for breastfeeding their child being just one example.

Women being raped in prison.

Women being told that they are racial bigots for not accepting the 'lesbian penis'.

Women who have been raped. being told they need to 'reframe their trauma' and accept people with penises in rape crisis centres.

Girls avoiding school when on their period or not using the toilet because trans girls , who have penises, might be in there.

Women & girls losing out in sport to males who identify as women.

Girls being sexually assualted by a 'transwoman' in the toilets of a supermarket.

and for balance

trans girls having their puberty delayed and cross sex hormones preventing them from having proper sexual activity as adults.

This list is not exhaustive.

But NOTE most of the negatives affect women and girls.

We say NO.

Women being told that they are racial bigots for not accepting the 'lesbian penis'.

Sorry that should have said sexual bigots.

So what makes a child 'trans'? Are they born in the wrong body? Or is there some other explanation?

Healthy breasts cut off and transmen like Freddy Mcconnel not having been told this would have implications for breastfeeding their child being just one example.

I find this unbelievable. How could a reasonably intelligent adult not realise that removing their breasts would mean that they couldn't breastfeed?

Super

can you list the differences between Georgia stone and a run of the mill boy? How can I tell from looking at Georgia that they’re not a boy?

Why do you guys focus so much on negatives?

Because it's not about individuals. It's about safeguarding women and children and allowing for the worst case scenario - because that's what safeguarding is. You focus on the negatives so you can make systems robust enough to protect the vulnerable.