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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman harassed in women's bathroom by a gender critical woman who thinks she is trans, she is upset by the experience.

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MargaritaPie · 29/10/2022 23:16

twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1586295024672808961

Woman harassed in women's bathroom by a gender critical woman who thinks she is trans, she is upset by the experience.
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/11/2022 08:36

I recall a separate survey that asked if transwomen had not gone through full SRS should they be using women's bathrooms and the answer was a resounding NO.

I've never seen a survey/poll which asked that specific question where that wasn't the answer.

The most notorious is the YouGov (with one question from Pink News) survey where genderist commentators such as Owen Jones frequently omit that part when they use it to show that women are more comfortable with "trans rights" and males in their spaces than men are.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/11/2022 08:46

A self-reporting “anonymous website study” of the opinions of US high school kids aged 13-17, is evidence of the assault risk in the loos at a ticketed Labour Party conference in a security-protected conference building in the U.K.?

Quite a claim Grin

ScrollingLeaves · 22/11/2022 10:59

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 08:36
The most notorious is the YouGov (with one question from Pink News) survey where genderist commentators such as Owen Jones frequently omit that part when they use it to show that women are more comfortable with "trans rights" and males in their spaces than men are.

I would hazard a guess that if every non trans person in the country could be asked what they they think a transsexual man/ transwoman is, an enormous majority would be confused about whether it means a woman living as a man, a man living as a woman, or a man dressing in women’s clothes as a transvestite.

Also, if someone had explained to them first that a transwoman is a man living as a woman, and they were subsequently asked if they thought a transwoman would have had surgery to remove their penis, the majority would think they had.

This public confusion has been taken advantage of and manipulated.

Datun · 22/11/2022 23:50

This public confusion has been taken advantage of and manipulated.

Absolutely. The general public are never going to accept that a heterosexual man, who enjoys using his penis, and says some magic words, should be allowed into women's changing rooms, but no other heterosexual man who enjoys using his penis. Until they say, the magic words, of course.

Bosky · 23/11/2022 06:58

Datun · 22/11/2022 23:50

This public confusion has been taken advantage of and manipulated.

Absolutely. The general public are never going to accept that a heterosexual man, who enjoys using his penis, and says some magic words, should be allowed into women's changing rooms, but no other heterosexual man who enjoys using his penis. Until they say, the magic words, of course.

That brought the hook of this Steve Miller Band hit to mind 😱

"Abra-abra-cadabra
I wanna reach out and grab ya"

OMG . . .

[Verse 4]
I feel the magic in your caress
I feel magic when I touch your dress
Silk and satin
Leather and lace
Black panties with an angel's face.

Creepy video too - gimp-masks and "black bar over eyes to protect the guilty" photos . . .

1982 celebration of predatory males!

Miller told The Dallas Morning News:

"Abracadabra' started off as a great piece of music with really atrocious lyrics. One day I was out skiing in Sun Valley and, lo and behold, who did I see on the mountain but Diana Ross. I skied down off the mountain to go have lunch. I had played with Diana Ross and the Supremes on Hullabaloo in the ‘60s, and I started thinking about the Supremes and I wrote the lyrics to 'Abracadabra’ in 15 minutes."

Apologies for the musical interlude. That video though. Never seen it before 😳

WickedSerious · 23/11/2022 08:52

Live4weekend · 29/10/2022 23:41

Really? They always seem like the voice of reason. I really can't understand why they don't get many tv gigs now............🤣

I thought he'd crawled up his own arse and disappeared.

WickedSerious · 23/11/2022 10:29

TheClogLady · 30/10/2022 12:19

I love that number 7 is wearing shoulder pads.

And number five has a saucepan on it's head.

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 21:58

Just woman isn't acceptable though unless you think its ok to pass judgement on someone elses real identity

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 22:07

Your badly written diatribe contains nothing that even remotely resembles the truth or reality of the life of a real Trans person
Your attempt at being smart or intelligent or even funny have failed
But you did manage to make yourself look ignorant and very small minded
Well done!

Happylittlechicken · 27/11/2022 22:08

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 22:07

Your badly written diatribe contains nothing that even remotely resembles the truth or reality of the life of a real Trans person
Your attempt at being smart or intelligent or even funny have failed
But you did manage to make yourself look ignorant and very small minded
Well done!

You ok hun?

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 22:10

LGB Alliance such a nice friendly bunch of misogynists 😂

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 27/11/2022 22:12

Ladynameplusnumbers username? 🧐

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 22:13

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Deleted as uncivil

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 22:16

Why are you interested?

Happylittlechicken · 27/11/2022 22:18

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Deleted as uncivil

What have you got against subcontractors? I’d think reporting them to trading standards if they’ve caused you problems rather than posting on here is the way to go. HTH

Happylittlechicken · 27/11/2022 22:20

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 22:16

Why are you interested?

Are you related to Connor?

SulisMinerva · 27/11/2022 22:21

Are you related to Connor?

There can be only one…

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 22:22

You are SO clever wow!
We all know who the LGB Alliance are
Its the smell 😂

Happylittlechicken · 27/11/2022 22:22

SulisMinerva · 27/11/2022 22:21

Are you related to Connor?

There can be only one…

Indeed. I love that film. Christopher lambert is awesome.

IcakethereforeIam · 27/11/2022 22:38

Smells like....victory!

howmanybicycles · 28/11/2022 19:46

LindaMacleod1963 · 27/11/2022 21:58

Just woman isn't acceptable though unless you think its ok to pass judgement on someone elses real identity

Woman is a biological reality and not an identity. You can't pretend it's not a biological reality just to access spaces which you are not entitled to access.

No-one is restricting identities. Trans people are welcome to choose from any of the available or conceivable range of identities for themselves. They are not being excluded from anything as they should have the right to use a facilities open to everyone in their sex class.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 28/11/2022 20:15

Your gender is on the 'same side' of your sex. Not saying you need to like it as a term, but it's just supposed to be a descriptor, not an insult.

Female is my immutable, biological sex.

Gender is the instrument of my oppression on the basis of that sex.

I do not 'identify' with the instrument of my own oppression.

I do not consent to your doing so on my behalf.

ApocalipstickNow · 28/11/2022 20:46

Happylittlechicken · 27/11/2022 22:22

Indeed. I love that film. Christopher lambert is awesome.

I’m all about Clancy Brown myself (sorrynotsorry).

Happylittlechicken · 28/11/2022 21:04

then of course…. There’s Sean Connery. He’s fab. Might have to go and watch the film again. Thanks @LindaMacleod1963

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