Woman harassed in women's bathroom by a gender critical woman who thinks she is trans, she is upset by the experience.

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So you’re saying that women are harassing other women in the womens public toilets because somewhere miles and miles away men were emboldened? Wow that’s quite a stretch really, almost as good as “satan made me do it”.

“Handmaidens” are still women. So my point stands.

The survey I posted WAS true and I posted the question they asked and the definition they used. If you’d like to post a different survey, go ahead. But other surveys don’t make the one I posted untrue.

you are so incredibly desperate to make the case for men in womens toilets and spaces. But I’m not at all. I was making a case against the claim that no women were part of allowing TW into womens toilets and no women are comfortable with them there. This claim was a lie. Saying a lie is a lie isn’t making a case for one side or another, it’s correcting misinformation.

No woman would argue for men in vulnerable womens spaces. Good thing I haven’t done that then. I have been arguing against women harassing other women in the womens public toilets because they think a woman may not be a woman.

I wonder if you apply the same standard to issue like catcalling? 🤔
That if some women “don’t mind it” it’s all ok then, nothing to see here.

@SlouchingTowardsBethlehemAgain The 'video' is faked by transactivist ideologists.

There is no such thing as a 'cis' woman. You're either a woman, or not.

? But weren’t people just saying on this thread this situation did in fact occur in their mothers and nans time?

I wonder if you apply the same standard to issue like catcalling? 🤔
That if some women “don’t mind it” it’s all ok then, nothing to see here.

@Discovereads isnt that the argument that TRA.use to justify TW using womens spaces, that some women don’t mind so it’s ok?

@Discovereads I wonder if you apply the same standard to issue like catcalling? 🤔*
That if some women “don’t mind it” it’s all ok then, nothing to see here.*

The two aren't even comparable 🤣 you're are making yourself look silly now. Time to buy a bigger shovel.

@Asdavaluesausage
Youre the one saying women are more at risk from other women then from men who wish to LARP as women. Nope didn’t say that. Comprehension fail.

You expect women to care about TW feeling unsafe in male toilets Nope, didn’t say or imply that either. Someone asked why don’t TW use the mens and I said why, which is it is less safe for them. No implying anyone should care one way or the other about that. Just answering a question that was asked. Comprehension fail

my comprehension is excellent. Score 0 out of 2.

extremist GC activists inciting and exhorting their followers to engage in this sort of confrontational behaviour and harassment.

This clearly FAKED 'video' is the result of extremist trans activists attempting to play dirty and muddy the waters in desperation. The woman in that video that 'confronted' them is as much of a GC activist as as King Charles is Beyonce.

Because it’s even more dangerous for them in the male facilities.

Er, no, it's not. All evidence and all testimony from men and gay men show that trans women are not at all in danger in mens toilets. They are accepted and the worse they might get is a snicker or smirk from another male. Indeed and in fact, trans women by all accounts, including from trans women themselves, show they are very, very safe in male toilets/facilities.

Yes they do. Note I am saying THEY because I’m not a TRA. Such arguments do both sides a disservice. Because it’s the same type of argument put forth here.

That since some women don’t mind being confronted and interrogated to prove they belong in the womens toilets, then it’s all ok, nothing to see. Bullies can bully away at anyone not feminine looking enough for their taste.

Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if someone has already posted this, but this is from the MN talk guidelines on sex and gender:

"That said, it’s clear that most trans people find the use of pronouns or names that they or others have consciously rejected, to be hurtful and would therefore struggle to engage in a discussion with those who insist on using them. The same is true of the expression ‘Trans-Identified Male’ or ‘TIM’. Likewise, many feminists are affronted by the term ‘cis’ and ‘terf’, so using these terms will make civil debate less likely. As we’ve said, context is everything – but our moderation team will most likely delete these expressions if we feel they're being used in a deliberately inflammatory way."

It seems to me that "cis" is used in a deliberately inflammatory way in the title of this thread, so why hasn't it been deleted?

I wonder if you apply the same standard to issue like catcalling?

That if some women “don’t mind it” it’s all ok then, nothing to see here.

Isn’t this the logic you have used by telling us that some women agreed in the one question you picked out?

I am confused.

Either way, what is comparative between cat calling and females being asked if they are in the right toilet? That doesn’t seem like a suitable comparator at all.

Except that TWs weren't using female toilets en masse before the MRA push to have TWs in womens toilets.

Also, since this has happened, women have become MORE AWARE of men/TRA/MRA extremists in their spaces and confronting and harassing women, hence the FIGHT BACK. So clearly, this has happened since the MRAs and TRAs like yourself egged these trans women into womens spaces. Ground zero.

@discover the thing is I always say it’d it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. Are you’re using every argument (and I use that term loosely). From the TRA playbook, so yeah, I’d say you’re a TRA. Or more like a MRA.

@Discovereads guess this evidence isn't coming then.

@JennyNotFromTheBlock
Clearly faked hey? Clearly wishful thinking on your part you mean.

TW are perfectly safe and do not experience any higher risk of harassment or assault… ok. I’ll believe your evidence when I see it.

I’m not a TRA or MRA. And you seem to be confused on timelines. The push came first and then the backlash. They didn’t happen at the same time.

Ah, insults, the last resort of the intellectually challenged. I suppose you and I are done then. That goodness. It’s really difficult to have a reasoned discussion with someone who reads what is not written.

@Discovereads TW are perfectly safe and do not experience any higher risk of harassment or assault… ok. I’ll believe your evidence when I see it.

We're waiting for your evidence that they are!!!

Nope because I have a lovely curry waiting for me and don’t have time to educate your silly ass on the challenges that gender nonconforming women face on a daily basis.

How is TRA an insult? Or MRA? Or did you think I was calling you a duck? I really wouldn’t. I like ducks.

That they are what? I’ve made no promises on anything about TW.

the flounce always comes dunnit?

enjoy your curry!

Always the way. I suppose this is more original than the phone died/ dog ate my router/ house fell down excuses we usually get.

I don’t understand why her response when asked if she was a man or woman was something like ‘why does it matter’. Surely that wouldn’t be a genuine response to that question? Most women surely think it does matter? Why be deliberately provocative?

@Helleofabore
That if some women “don’t mind it” it’s all ok then, nothing to see here.

”Isn’t this the logic you have used by telling us that some women agreed in the one question you picked out?” No. presuming you are referring to the old chestnut that it was “only men” who decided men could use womens toilets and “no women” were ever consulted. 🙄

That was me correcting a bullshit lie. Because women in positions of power were consulted, were part of the decision, and agreed to the decision and furthermore surveys showed that some women didn’t mind.

I never stated whether all that was ok or not ok. This was purely a true or false question. There was no ethical judgement made.