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Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine

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Bosky · 13/09/2022 06:04

Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit grower statement

A statement from the owner reads in part:

Downtime Update as of August 26th, 2022

"What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [REDACTED] can [REDACTED] little boys and girls into [REDACTED] and [REDACTED], while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which allows criticism of their [REDACTED], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead."

I would link to the statement on the Internet Archive aka "Wayback Machine" but it has made all pages archived from the relevant site unsearchable (or deleted?).

Mumsnet does not permit links to the site Archive Today so that is out too.

1st Thread Antipodean fruit grower statement
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4620584-antipodean-fruit-grower-statement

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nothingcomestonothing · 10/05/2023 15:15

MerlinsLostMarbles · 10/05/2023 15:01

About Kiwifarms holding personal info about transpeople, isn't this a breach of the data protection act?

Is Kiwifarms registered with the information commissioner and told them why they are storing these details?

LOL, KF is registered in the USA, no stiff email from the information commissioner for them. Quite aside from the fact that all there is on KF is stuff which the people they laugh at have posted online themselves. No one can be brought to book for having info on you, that you've freely given to the public internet.

So anyway, stealing from trans charity, good or bad? Trying to cover for the thieves, good or bad?

Bosky · 10/05/2023 15:16

If only everything on Kiwi Farms had been archived . . . somewhere else . . . not the Wayback Machine as its management was persuaded to remove Kiwi Farms pages from its index (see earlier posts) . . . but . . . somewhere else (cough!)

For info, Fong-Jones has been embroiled in numerous controversies, eg. being cited in the Employment Discrimination case brought by James Damore against Google:

Internal emails reveal Google’s toxic culture
Jan 11 2018

EMPLOYEES at Google used internal company message boards to advocate political violence, recruit for a hard-line left-wing activist group and even propose public “trials” for ideological opponents, documents filed in court suggest.

The nearly 100 pages of internal emails and message board postings are contained in a class-action lawsuit filed by former employee James Damore in California on Monday, accusing Google of discriminating against white people, men and conservatives.

Mr Damore was the author of a controversial internal memo criticising the tech giant’s “politically correct” diversity policies. He was sacked last year for “perpetuating gender stereotypes” after the memo was leaked to the media and went viral.

Screenshots of messages attached to the complaint show Google employees attacking conservatives and white people, advocating political violence and even sharing “how-to” guides to join Antifa, a violent left-wing anarchist group reportedly classified as “domestic terrorists” by US Homeland Security.

(see link to "100 pages of internal emails" above and search for "Fong" to view the relevant evidence in official court documents)

Full article:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/internal-emails-reveal-googles-insane-toxic-culture/news-story/8fc8941ede9d6d92673f2e0ace9b8621

Fong then sued Google for the mild disciplinary measures taken as a result of the evidence of Fong's discriminatory behaviour in Damore's suit against Google.

Copy and paste from KF archive, slightly edited to avoid breaking Mumsnet rules about "deadnaming" and "misgendering". FJ = "Fong-Jones":

FJ directly and openly breaking the company's policies may have been another catalyst leading to FJ's dismissal. When FJ attempted to take down Kiwifarms a second time . . . FJ used FJ's position in Google to intimidate and bully the smaller hosting services associated with the forum. The use of FJ's official Google email for FJ's personal vendetta violated the company policies outlined above, which no doubt played a part in the company eventually paying FJ a comfortable $100,000 settlement to leave, most likely in hopes FJ wouldn't threaten litigation yet again. In a sense, such reasoning does technically mean FJ's often-repeated assertion FJ's engagement with Kiwifarms was responsible for FJ being fired is true. Unfortunately for FJ, it's entirely due to FJ's own actions while the forum remained completely passive beyond laughing at FJ's takedown attempts.

Meanwhile, KiwiFarms is still offline. Latest update (redacted naughty words):

I am shipping in a replacement server that is a direct upgrade. The hard drives will be swapped over. ETA Friday.

The guy who built the original is interested in diagnosing the mainboard, so I am going to ship that back to him. We'll then get that server on the same level as the new server coming in.

When they're both in, I can then finally, finally, finally have a fully redundant server for the Kiwi Farms in the same datacenter and we will never have to deal with this shit again and I can just focus on dealing with (redacted) and the war on infrastructure-level censorship.

This is pretty expensive, but doable thanks to cryptocurrency donations I've received it is possible.

(cryptocurrency links redacted)

I am very particular about running on our own bare metal because one day, when we've overcome these (redacted), we can dig in our heels and get other communities over these censorship obstacles as well.

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Needmoresleep · 10/05/2023 15:22

I don't understand the technical stuff, but his determination and ability is impressive.

It would be nice to think that his mom was a poster here.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/05/2023 15:32

Oh my god, Google sounds insane. And like their employees are obsessed with punching people

In August, employee Tim Chevalier wrote that there was “literally only one reason an anti-fascist would be violent towards you: you are a fascist”.

Another post shows Google manager Kim Burchett suggesting a public blacklist of political conservatives inside the company, who would be subjected to “something resembling a trial” before being added.

err what now?

kittensinthekitchen · 10/05/2023 16:17

Waitwhat23 · 10/05/2023 15:13

I actually had to double check that poster's username as their derails sound so very familiar.

They have been reported to Mumsnet multiple times. Never get beyond a 'We'll look into it' response.

Helleofabore · 10/05/2023 16:22

Waitwhat23 · 10/05/2023 15:13

I actually had to double check that poster's username as their derails sound so very familiar.

The derails are familiar, trust your instinct.

Dreikanter · 10/05/2023 16:25

which no doubt played a part in the company eventually paying FJ a comfortable $100,000 settlement to leave

That’s not much for a self-reported $800k annual package. FJ says they quit and donated their final $100k payout - the payout was to leave early.

nothingcomestonothing · 10/05/2023 16:48

Needmoresleep · 10/05/2023 15:22

I don't understand the technical stuff, but his determination and ability is impressive.

It would be nice to think that his mom was a poster here.

Last time a trans person tried to bring down KF some farmers suggested that they should try to pimp Jersh out to a FWRer, the logic being 'think how unstoppable he'd be with a based British terf wife!' If anyone's in the market? Grin

GingerPCatt · 10/05/2023 17:00

Anyhoodle is the farms working for anyone? I’m trying tor on onion but I’m a mobile* and not very technical so it’s not working for me. Any tips?
I really miss the GRS thread. There were some really interesting conversations going on there.

nothingcomestonothing · 10/05/2023 17:37

GingerPCatt · 10/05/2023 17:00

Anyhoodle is the farms working for anyone? I’m trying tor on onion but I’m a mobile* and not very technical so it’s not working for me. Any tips?
I really miss the GRS thread. There were some really interesting conversations going on there.

It was up on tor yesterday but today a technical dooberry needs replacing, won't be ready til Friday. I'm paraphrasing. I also spend time on the GRS thread, it should be required reading/ viewing for people who encourage young people down that road Sad

GingerPCatt · 10/05/2023 17:45

I’m med* adjacent so find the medical knowledge really interesting.
TBH I don’t really look at most of the pictures but anyone wanting or encouraging someone (especially a young person) to have surgery should have to look at all of them.

ImNotAnExpert · 10/05/2023 19:04

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/05/2023 15:32

Oh my god, Google sounds insane. And like their employees are obsessed with punching people

In August, employee Tim Chevalier wrote that there was “literally only one reason an anti-fascist would be violent towards you: you are a fascist”.

Another post shows Google manager Kim Burchett suggesting a public blacklist of political conservatives inside the company, who would be subjected to “something resembling a trial” before being added.

err what now?

This sounds reasonable. Anyone can identify as an anti-fascist, and by that logic, anyone they feel like punching is QED a 'fascist'.

TheClogLady · 10/05/2023 19:25

Helleofabore · 10/05/2023 16:22

The derails are familiar, trust your instinct.

Margarita GIF by CheekysBrand

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ColdMeg · 10/05/2023 20:02

GingerPCatt · 10/05/2023 17:45

I’m med* adjacent so find the medical knowledge really interesting.
TBH I don’t really look at most of the pictures but anyone wanting or encouraging someone (especially a young person) to have surgery should have to look at all of them.

There's some very clued up medbods on KF. There was a post made on one thread about medical fads that basically confirmed something I had suspected for some time about a niche condition I have. There's bugger all I can do about it, but it's good to know that what I suspected is likely true.

ControversialOpening · 10/05/2023 20:19

I’d never heard of this particular TRA before reading this thread. I am now anticipating KWF return so I can have a good long read.

JeanRondeausMadHair · 10/05/2023 20:20

MerlinsLostMarbles · 10/05/2023 15:01

About Kiwifarms holding personal info about transpeople, isn't this a breach of the data protection act?

Is Kiwifarms registered with the information commissioner and told them why they are storing these details?

Comedy gold.

Bosky · 10/05/2023 21:08
star wars van GIF

JeanRondeausMadHair I've heard that they haven't got a TV Licence either!

Detector van is on its way around there as I speak

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kittensinthekitchen · 10/05/2023 21:14

I saw Josh park in a P&C space the other day.

And he picked a salt sachet off the cafe table and put it in his pocket.

nothingcomestonothing · 10/05/2023 21:29

I heard he's got a toilet brush. And a chavvy sex pond.

Needmoresleep · 10/05/2023 21:47

No wonder Josh has an antipathy to Bongland. Its the bloody information commissioner. Keeps harassing him.

Bosky · 11/05/2023 13:50

nothingcomestonothing Hasn't everyone got a toilet brush?? 😳

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GingerPCatt · 11/05/2023 15:35

i heard he likes warm weetabix… with banana… AND he doesn’t wash the bowl right away so it dries out. <faints>

nothingcomestonothing · 11/05/2023 15:59

Bosky · 11/05/2023 13:50

nothingcomestonothing Hasn't everyone got a toilet brush?? 😳

Are you an actual MNer?? You can't admit to having a toilet brush!!

Bosky · 12/05/2023 05:46

nothingcomestonothing · 11/05/2023 15:59

Are you an actual MNer?? You can't admit to having a toilet brush!!

Holy shit!!! 😂

There are lunatics on Mumsnet putting toilet brushes in the dishwasher to clean them and other lunatics scrabbling around in the toilet bowl with their bare hands!!

Why do people on mumsnet hate toilet brushes?
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4664020-why-do-people-on-mumsnet-hate-toilet-brushes

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