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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine

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Bosky · 13/09/2022 06:04

Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit grower statement

A statement from the owner reads in part:

Downtime Update as of August 26th, 2022

"What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [REDACTED] can [REDACTED] little boys and girls into [REDACTED] and [REDACTED], while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which allows criticism of their [REDACTED], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead."

I would link to the statement on the Internet Archive aka "Wayback Machine" but it has made all pages archived from the relevant site unsearchable (or deleted?).

Mumsnet does not permit links to the site Archive Today so that is out too.

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RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 10/10/2022 20:41

Or martinipudding 🤔

Shakenotslurred · 10/10/2022 20:42

Oooh…. I’m trying so hard not to go looking….

TheClogLady · 10/10/2022 20:49

DaiquiriDoughnut?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 10/10/2022 21:02

Ooo nice cloglady

alliteration

MargaritaPie · 10/10/2022 21:06

"is it ever ok for 4 haters to turn up at a person’s private residence and if so, what parameters make it OK"

Views certainly differ on that one.

Some might say JK Rowling is the hater and the 4 transwomen were protesting against her hate.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 10/10/2022 21:15

Some might say JK Rowling is the hater and the 4 transwomen were protesting against her hate

still makes them haters…

Shakenotslurred · 10/10/2022 21:17

ive found @MargaritaPie KF name. Pepperonipornstar

ArabellaScott · 10/10/2022 21:18

'hater' 😂

Shake it off, Marge.

TheClogLady · 10/10/2022 21:18

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 10/10/2022 21:15

Some might say JK Rowling is the hater and the 4 transwomen were protesting against her hate

still makes them haters…

And they obviously aren’t scared or intimidated by JK in any way, or they wouldn’t go anywhere near her!

(I suspect Marge is misgendering the haterz too)

Dreikanter · 10/10/2022 21:56

Shakenotslurred · 10/10/2022 20:39

Is anyone else seriously wondering what @MargaritaPie username on KF is?

OldFashionedFlummery?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 10/10/2022 22:00

Oh i do like an old fashioned

kittensinthekitchen · 10/10/2022 23:48

MargaritaPie · 10/10/2022 21:06

"is it ever ok for 4 haters to turn up at a person’s private residence and if so, what parameters make it OK"

Views certainly differ on that one.

Some might say JK Rowling is the hater and the 4 transwomen were protesting against her hate.

So is it okay to behave in a threatening and illegal manner if you disagree with something someone says?

MargaritaPie · 11/10/2022 00:22

The transwomen weren't behaving in a threatening/illegal manner. Police Scotland confirmed they committed no crime.

landyland · 11/10/2022 02:26

Marg are you some kind of reverse psychology bot? Your need to have the last word just keeps highlighting this thread and that lots of mumsnetters like the Kiwifarms discussion forum? (And understand IT security better than you do)

Shakenotslurred · 11/10/2022 05:50

MargaritaPie · 11/10/2022 00:22

The transwomen weren't behaving in a threatening/illegal manner. Police Scotland confirmed they committed no crime.

You’ve gotta admire @MargaritaPie and the commitment to this thread.

Fidgetbottom · 11/10/2022 06:12

A few things I have personally learned from the KF drama.
How to improve my Internet opsec, how to buy and use crypto, how not to trust big tech and how I have a bit of a crush on Mr. Moon.

Shakenotslurred · 11/10/2022 06:20

Hands off @Fidgetbottom Josh is mine 😀😀. I do like a chubby cheeked man with a good like in Internet security

GingerPCatt · 11/10/2022 07:37

I think the context around the doxxing of JKR is very important. She had (and probably still does) receive thousands of death threats, threats of rape and other violence. If any threats are made against a cow they are removed from KF very quickly. Farmers tend to stick to insulting the cow not threatening them.
I think being doxxed would be scary if I had thousands of people tweeting death threats to me versus a thread on a website that I would actively have to visit that’s insulting my appearance, intelligence, and personal hygiene. Not nice, but a very different kettle of fish.

Also doxxing is not illegal. In theory, death threats are.

PS JKR has a thread on KF but I haven’t read it.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 11/10/2022 08:03

Shakenotslurred · 11/10/2022 05:50

You’ve gotta admire @MargaritaPie and the commitment to this thread.

Yep

though one of the things i admire about marg is the fact she doesn’t get annoyed at people, obviously I can’t see that…marg may well be smashing furniture and cursing everyone as i type. But still….

and also if you see a gang of lads outside the one stop they aren’t committing a crime, but for some people that could feel a bit threatening. If those lads who are committing no crime hang about outside my house thats gonna feel a bit more threatening….and those lads don’t hate my guts and want me to die in a grease fire

Fidgetbottom · 11/10/2022 10:31

@Shakenotslurred I actually think there is plenty of him to go around. Haha

I have learned a lot about the old Interwebz through listening to his streams. Plus it always amazes me how quickly some people can type. I might try to learn to type properly at some point.

TheClogLady · 11/10/2022 10:45

MargaritaPie · 10/10/2022 21:06

"is it ever ok for 4 haters to turn up at a person’s private residence and if so, what parameters make it OK"

Views certainly differ on that one.

Some might say JK Rowling is the hater and the 4 transwomen were protesting against her hate.

Stop misgendering the people who were outside JK’s house!

TheClogLady · 11/10/2022 10:47

Fidgetbottom · 11/10/2022 06:12

A few things I have personally learned from the KF drama.
How to improve my Internet opsec, how to buy and use crypto, how not to trust big tech and how I have a bit of a crush on Mr. Moon.

Not things anyone ever expected to read on Mumsnet 😅

Dreikanter · 11/10/2022 11:04

MargaritaPie · 11/10/2022 00:22

The transwomen weren't behaving in a threatening/illegal manner. Police Scotland confirmed they committed no crime.

None of them were actually transwomen though Marge, according to the press coverage. Looking them up now you get a comedian (he/they) and an actor (they/she) and a drag queen.

www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2021/11/22/jk-rowling-slams-activist-actors-who-doxxed-her-during-trans-rights-protest/?sh=66d89ed6409e

TheClogLady · 11/10/2022 11:07

Dreikanter · 11/10/2022 11:04

None of them were actually transwomen though Marge, according to the press coverage. Looking them up now you get a comedian (he/they) and an actor (they/she) and a drag queen.

www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2021/11/22/jk-rowling-slams-activist-actors-who-doxxed-her-during-trans-rights-protest/?sh=66d89ed6409e

And a male photographer, I believe?

BordoisAgain · 11/10/2022 15:17

Is bullying a transperson over their appearance OK with you Marge?

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