Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

[ZombieMumEB]

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

Here you are. Adult babies at pride.

web.archive.org/web/20190707051212/www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-48893187

Thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3631413-In-plain-sight

"Can you explain why so many lesbians are supportive of a homophobic misogynistic movement?"

The fact that so many lesbian support and are part of the movement for trans rights should tell you that it is in fact neither homophobic nor misogynistic. I suspect if you knew more lesbians you would know that too.

Cool, never seen one. Won't stop me taking my niece and nephew to march again with my football team next year. We had a great time. All families should take their kids to Pride parades, it's always so joyful 🏳️‍🌈

So are you saying this comment by male transperson Rachel McKinnon/Veronica Ivy isn't homophobic?

She wrote this:

I think over the last 20 years or so I'd forgotten that being a lesbian and refusing to contemplate intimate relationships with men is the most radical and provocative position a woman can take and one that a lot of straight women have only superficial tolerance of.

It's utterly true. Mumsnet is full of women who express casual lesbophobia, and wider society is, too. Any women swearing off men for any reason are reviled - firstly by men, but of course by straight women, too.

I thank god every day that I am a lesbian - I won the sexuality lottery. But my god, the shit we have to endure. 🙁

I've met couples where one is cis, the other trans. I know it might horrify transphobes but there are a lot of people out there who date trans people.

If they do, they are bisexual, not lesbians.

Honestly, I just think women who cannot see the misogyny are blind.

And that was not the question oldcrone asked, was it?

A lesbian who dates a trans woman is not bisexual and neither is a gay man who dates a trans man. Who are you to police other people's identities?

You are brainwashed. It's hard to take you seriously.

This.

McKinnon/Ivy says that lesbians who don't want to have sex with someone with a penis have 'genital hangups'. It would be hard to make the lesbophobia more obvious than in that comment.

Happily brainwashed and joyfully part of the rainbow family! 🏳️‍🌈

Its really not a good look to admit that you’ve been brainwashed into your views

Well, when you're correct, you're correct.

Fair point as always datun 😀

If it's a family then its a toxic patriarchal mess.

Not a single thought you can call your own. I pity you.

All my thoughts are my own, that is why they are my own. 😀

If they're your own thoughts can you explain why you believe that expecting a lesbian to have sex with someone with a penis isn't homophobic?

I don't expect anyone to have sex with someone unless they want to.

Still unable to answer the question

thatll be the brainwashing

So you agree that all the people who say TWAW are homophobic?

Well, if you declare that you don’t care at all what Peter Tatchell has written and actually activated about, and cannot admit whether you 100% support what he, Nancy Kelley and Jane Fae who are Stonewall representatives say when directly asked about 10 times, I think we can assume that either there is much truth to that brainwashing comment, or that the poster is actually a hypocrite and holds others to a higher standard than Stonewall representatives.

Either way, avoidance of what McKinnon actually said and the implications of what McKinnon actually said, is the usual method.

@Hearach15

Do you think a lesbian is transphobic if she doesn't want to have sex with someone with a penis?