Drag Queen Robert Clothier convicted (TW)

[achillestoes]

A drag queen named Robert Clothier (stage name Lady James) arranged a ‘liaison’ with a man and his two young children, for the purposes of a sexual encounter with the man and to assault/rape the children. It was a police sting. He has just been convicted and sentenced to 26 months in prison.

There is a difference of category between pantomime dames and modern ‘drag queens’. This isn’t theatre culture or acting; it’s a lifestyle, and a sexualised one.

I hope he serves every day of that time.

This was reported 9 years ago. Is there a reason you have shared it now?

Yes, I saw it being reported today on socials and thought it was recent.

You’re right @geojellyfish I suppose he’s out by now. Hopefully living a more lawful life.

He would have probably been out of prison by Chistmas 2014, what are you trying to achieve with this thread?

@achillestoes

It's considered good manners on this board to check news stories seen on SM are legitimate/recent before posting.

It would be interesting to compare how such things would be dealt with now compared to 2014. Would the police even do a sting on that now, I wonder? Or, would the 'poor' chappie be excused on account of 'issues' he might claim to be dealing with? Would police sent the heavies around to anyone who reported any suspicion?

As I’ve said, I thought it was recent. Ignore and move on?

That was an awfully lenient sentence!!!!

Those recorded in the WiSpa showed some people excusing a male exposing themselves to minors. Indeed with disapproval of the brave woman who refused to look the other way at such a thing. Yet that person who allegedly exposed their genitals in the proximity of a child allegedly had priors; I presume from a time where it was not so 'du jour' among certain types of people to excuse a male exposing themselves to minors.

It may have happened a few years ago but it still happened!!

You seem to be insinuating that all Drag Queens are paedophiles. In fact, no. You're outright saying it. They are not.

@iklboo

No, I’m not. I’m saying I think drag is a sexualised form of self-expression. Not like being a pantomime dame.

How many drag queen peadophiles are acceptable to you?

Interesting to consider the growth of drag queen story time since this case.

I’m trying to be both careful and honest about what I think. Here goes... I don’t think all drag queens are paedophiles. I think it’s part of what you might loosely call ‘queer’ culture. But that means it’s not what some people try to say it is: a form of children’s entertainment. It’s a performance of (typically) flamboyance linked to the expression of homosexuality. But because it is a form of sexual expression, I don’t think it should involve kids at all.

I guess for me it’s a question of whether drag is closer to something like ballet or to burlesque. Both are dancing, both involve costume. But I wouldn’t take my 6 year old to watch burlesque, because it’s designed to be risqué. Same with drag.

Now I wouldn’t be trying to suggest people doing burlesque are more likely than anyone else to be paedophiles. That would be silly. But if they wanted to go to my daughters’ school and do their act? Then I would say they were more likely. The appetite to perform a sexualised stereotype in front of children is a red flag.

“Robert Clothier set up sexual liaison with 'Mark' and his children online
Police were waiting for him at Wimbledon station and arrested him

Officers found glow-in-the-dark condoms, Easter eggs and toys on him

Clothier, who also goes by the name Lady James, was jailed for 26 months

Drag Queen made joke about being a sex offender at Brighton Pride festival

'I'm sweating like a paedophile in Mothercare', he told the crowd”

The Brighton Shame Festival on his part.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2382454/Paedophile-drag-queen-Robert-Clothier-arranged-sex-children-8-11-caught-police-sting.html

Hang on - this is an old story from 2013.

I see everyone had realised. I am sorry for not having rtft.

Not that many of the discussions on the thread are any les relevant for being based on an old story.

Myra Hyndley was a women - how many female child murderers are acceptable to you?

Kissandmakeup · Today 17:23

“iklboo · Today 17:13
You seem to be insinuating that all Drag Queens are paedophiles. In fact, no. You're outright saying it. They are not.”

How many drag queen peadophiles are acceptable to you?

FitAt50 · Today 21:35
Myra Hyndley was a women - how many female child murderers are acceptable to you?

I should think none.

I take it you are including Mira Hindley as
a paedophile, as the point made was about paedophiles.

From the ONS
Child sexual abuse in England and Wales: year ending March 2019

The majority of perpetrators of sexual abuse before the age of 16 years were males

Around 9 in 10 adults (92%) experienced sexual abuse committed by males only. A further 4% experienced sexual abuse committed by both males and females, and 4% experienced sexual abuse by females only

(I hope the ONS data is not based on statistics recording trans women abusers as female).

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/childsexualabuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2019#characteristics-of-victims-of-child-sexual-abuse

If people want something more current, a man called Brice Williams, a drag queen in Pennsylvania who has taken bookings to perform for children, has been charged with 25 counts of possession of child abuse imagery. That's in the last month or so

www.pennlive.com/crime/2022/06/central-pa-drag-queen-activist-charged-with-25-counts-of-child-pornography-police.html