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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

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Metabigot · 25/06/2022 17:25

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

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nightwakingmoon · 26/06/2022 11:18

Quick, the woman police are here! And they are very sad that you are not all conforming to the proper woman stereotypes of being Kind, and Not Mean And Gleefully So.

If you want to be Mean you must identify as non binary or better still, male (that’s okay of course, because Men Are Allowed To Be Mean, that’s their identity). But it’s very SAD you know, to see women womaning wrong. I bet you’re all horrible mothers too because you’re SO MEAN. Sad!

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 11:20

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:05

It's a shame that every thread is hijacked by the same two posters who use the same tactics - twist, gaslight and deliberately misunderstand. I'm sure theres a few people who find you utterly funny and wonderful, but in the real world, it only makes people respect you and your views even less.

This is really sad. Are you truly so self centred that you'll involve yourself into someone else's coping strategy and try to publicly shame them for not doing it your way? Is compassion something that only works in one direction? The pp explained ehy she's using humour on here, to vent, and yet you're unable, it seems, to back off and let her do it. Why is that so hard?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/06/2022 11:21

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 10:46

But just because that's your way of dealing with it doesnt give you the right to take the piss put of other people does it.

thank you for your post. It gives me great joy to use the word “literally” in its correct context.

yes, I have literally that right. Freedom of speech and expression are rights in this land and I am going to indulge myself in them while they last.

if you don’t like something that someone says then counter it, debunk it, outsmart it, out sneer it. Responding as a 10 year old child would wirh “boo hoo hoo I don’t like it, be kiiiiind” is beneath you if you are an adult

no debate was the worst thing to happen in gender, it really was. You are a decade behind me and those who think like I do - that sex is real and it is grotesque that we lie to people about reality and dress it up as a kindness. We’ve had years to debate and analyse and consider - you have to put in some work and catch up.

why not start with the Mail today? Tullip’s account of his “gender journey”? Read it and weep.

theres fuck all funny in his story, I’ll give you that.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:22

nightwakingmoon · 26/06/2022 11:18

Quick, the woman police are here! And they are very sad that you are not all conforming to the proper woman stereotypes of being Kind, and Not Mean And Gleefully So.

If you want to be Mean you must identify as non binary or better still, male (that’s okay of course, because Men Are Allowed To Be Mean, that’s their identity). But it’s very SAD you know, to see women womaning wrong. I bet you’re all horrible mothers too because you’re SO MEAN. Sad!

This is exactly the nonsense I'm talking about. Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:22

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 11:20

This is really sad. Are you truly so self centred that you'll involve yourself into someone else's coping strategy and try to publicly shame them for not doing it your way? Is compassion something that only works in one direction? The pp explained ehy she's using humour on here, to vent, and yet you're unable, it seems, to back off and let her do it. Why is that so hard?

I havent addressed the OP
I made one comment about the mean gleefulness and that wasnt actually directed at her.

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 11:23

This is exactly the nonsense I'm talking about. Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

Again with the irony! 😂

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:23

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 11:18

@placewherewebelong I didn't accuse you of anything. What I was doing was pointing out that you saying 'non binary women' aren't a thing, is factually incorrect and by doing so, you are 'invalidating' another person's identity in exactly the same way that you are suggesting others are doing.

I don't have a 'gang' I'm not bullying you or anyone else but I find the constant insistence that the gazillion and growing gender identities are set in stone, when it's clear they are not, and are subsequently becoming less and less meaningful because they are based on individual feelings and interpretations.

I am amazed you can't see that.

Il give you that one, and I think in real life wed agree.

I flew off the handle because you called me narrow minded and bigoted.

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 11:29

I flew off the handle because you called me narrow minded and bigoted.

I didn't actually. The implication was that your denial of the existence of 'non binary women' would be considered narrow minded and bigoted' by folk in that 'community'. If you don't believe me, take a look at some of the subs on Reddit - no dissent or denial of any identity is allowed.

That's the point I was trying to make. To be clear I don't believe you are a narrow minded bigot. But that's the problem with this entire situation- it's radical acceptance without exception or you are indeed a bigot for 'wrongthink'.

However I apologise for offending you.

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 11:31

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:22

I havent addressed the OP
I made one comment about the mean gleefulness and that wasnt actually directed at her.

I was talking about Stealths post explaining her situation, but of course the thread had moved on so the context disappeared with that movement.
Now. Is it really so hard to allow people to find their way to relief from difficult situations via humour?

drinkingwineoutofamug · 26/06/2022 11:33

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 10:57

I think its quite regressive and insulting and arrogant that you are literally denying someone else's existence and identity.

Oh the irony!

I agree

nightwakingmoon · 26/06/2022 11:37

Oh no, ridiculous too now! Yet you were the very one who introduced the Sad About Women Being Gleeful And Mean, @placewherewebelong . So why is it ridiculous? You seem annoyed that women don’t like to be lectured about how they aren’t confirming to your personal expectations?

I have to admit, I wouldn’t plop onto a random thread on an internet message board to tell posters off like a schoolteacher, then expect them to receive it very well. Not sure why you do?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/06/2022 11:39

This would be a lot easier if “non binary” had a definition.

if you can’t define it then it isn’t a thing you can protect in law or legislation.

so that’s your problem. You are trying to defend something that no one knows what it is - including the deluded fools that I gave birth to.

im a child of the 80s. I was weaned on gender bending. None of this is special to me and none of it impresses me and all of it terrifies me.

My kids need to be robust and the fact that school and scouts and society INDULGES their bonkers nonsense is not, to my mind, kind.

so I make jokes about it to cope and to provoke. BecIse they have to toughen up and soon. No one will give a shit about their hurty feels when I’m not here to swoop in and pay their rent that they can’t afford because they are too upset to manage to get to work because someone might look at them funny on the bus. Well, so what if they look at you funny? I wore a dirndl dress and white stilletos and elnett hairspray for a decade, everyone looked at me funny. If you choose to wander around in a care bear onesie, rainbow hair and a sad look on your face people are going to look at you.

So your choice is to either dress in a more conformist way or own your “style” (it’s a fucking uniform, there’s herds of 20 year olds in rainbow dungarees moping about the shopping centre hoping for a nice aggression to wail about)

Get up, get a job, do something to generate some self respect - like define non binary, that would be really helpful for society. Christ, if you can do that you’ll likey get a Nobel ficking prize

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:40

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 11:29

I flew off the handle because you called me narrow minded and bigoted.

I didn't actually. The implication was that your denial of the existence of 'non binary women' would be considered narrow minded and bigoted' by folk in that 'community'. If you don't believe me, take a look at some of the subs on Reddit - no dissent or denial of any identity is allowed.

That's the point I was trying to make. To be clear I don't believe you are a narrow minded bigot. But that's the problem with this entire situation- it's radical acceptance without exception or you are indeed a bigot for 'wrongthink'.

However I apologise for offending you.

Nah, I'm sorry. I think we would actually agree IRL! I don't disagree with you in principle, I just dont like some of the mean spiritedness, if you will (not you).

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:41

nightwakingmoon · 26/06/2022 11:37

Oh no, ridiculous too now! Yet you were the very one who introduced the Sad About Women Being Gleeful And Mean, @placewherewebelong . So why is it ridiculous? You seem annoyed that women don’t like to be lectured about how they aren’t confirming to your personal expectations?

I have to admit, I wouldn’t plop onto a random thread on an internet message board to tell posters off like a schoolteacher, then expect them to receive it very well. Not sure why you do?

I didnt lecture anyone.

I said I didnt like it. I'm entitled to an opinion. This isn't the playground.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:41

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 11:31

I was talking about Stealths post explaining her situation, but of course the thread had moved on so the context disappeared with that movement.
Now. Is it really so hard to allow people to find their way to relief from difficult situations via humour?

No.

babyjellyfish · 26/06/2022 11:43

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/06/2022 11:39

This would be a lot easier if “non binary” had a definition.

if you can’t define it then it isn’t a thing you can protect in law or legislation.

so that’s your problem. You are trying to defend something that no one knows what it is - including the deluded fools that I gave birth to.

im a child of the 80s. I was weaned on gender bending. None of this is special to me and none of it impresses me and all of it terrifies me.

My kids need to be robust and the fact that school and scouts and society INDULGES their bonkers nonsense is not, to my mind, kind.

so I make jokes about it to cope and to provoke. BecIse they have to toughen up and soon. No one will give a shit about their hurty feels when I’m not here to swoop in and pay their rent that they can’t afford because they are too upset to manage to get to work because someone might look at them funny on the bus. Well, so what if they look at you funny? I wore a dirndl dress and white stilletos and elnett hairspray for a decade, everyone looked at me funny. If you choose to wander around in a care bear onesie, rainbow hair and a sad look on your face people are going to look at you.

So your choice is to either dress in a more conformist way or own your “style” (it’s a fucking uniform, there’s herds of 20 year olds in rainbow dungarees moping about the shopping centre hoping for a nice aggression to wail about)

Get up, get a job, do something to generate some self respect - like define non binary, that would be really helpful for society. Christ, if you can do that you’ll likey get a Nobel ficking prize

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 11:45

If you choose to wander around in a care bear onesie, rainbow hair and a sad look on your face people are going to look at you.

I'm sorry this really made me laugh out loud! 😂

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 11:49

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 11:45

If you choose to wander around in a care bear onesie, rainbow hair and a sad look on your face people are going to look at you.

I'm sorry this really made me laugh out loud! 😂

Same :'(

Live4weekend · 26/06/2022 11:59

Place I suggest you go on to Twitter and loom at the posts of some of the most prominent Trans Women on there. Then you will see what gleeful really is.

Perhaps this thread is a bit unkind, but fuck me, it's a shit time to he a woman (as in someone who was actually born one) and many of us here are absolutely terrified for our daughters and what is ahead of them.

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 12:04

Tbf It could be worse. At least no one here is making death threats! A little gently mocking humour is a far cry from the violent vitriol that gets spat at women elsewhere in the internet for having simply an opinion about their own material realities.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 12:06

Live4weekend · 26/06/2022 11:59

Place I suggest you go on to Twitter and loom at the posts of some of the most prominent Trans Women on there. Then you will see what gleeful really is.

Perhaps this thread is a bit unkind, but fuck me, it's a shit time to he a woman (as in someone who was actually born one) and many of us here are absolutely terrified for our daughters and what is ahead of them.

I get that.

It's also quite shit for the trans women who srent like those on twitter, tho.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 12:13

It's also quite shit for the trans women who srent like those on twitter, tho.

What is?

Live4weekend · 26/06/2022 12:18

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 12:06

I get that.

It's also quite shit for the trans women who srent like those on twitter, tho.

I don't doubt that. Twitter is a vile place. I don't post there. I have been appled at some of the comments from woman, but I've got to be honest, the most threatening and aggressive sounding have been from Trans Women or men.

Men often against the Transwoman, but also the male TRAs who are harassing females.

There is one regular tweeter who seems pretty obsessive in his hatred for woman (I believe he's a straight man). He's been very active the last few days against one GC female.

It's shocking that these people are not banned.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 12:21

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 12:13

It's also quite shit for the trans women who srent like those on twitter, tho.

What is?

a shit time.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 12:21

Live4weekend · 26/06/2022 12:18

I don't doubt that. Twitter is a vile place. I don't post there. I have been appled at some of the comments from woman, but I've got to be honest, the most threatening and aggressive sounding have been from Trans Women or men.

Men often against the Transwoman, but also the male TRAs who are harassing females.

There is one regular tweeter who seems pretty obsessive in his hatred for woman (I believe he's a straight man). He's been very active the last few days against one GC female.

It's shocking that these people are not banned.

I completely agree.

I dont understand why they arent.