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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

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Metabigot · 25/06/2022 17:25

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

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nightwakingmoon · 27/06/2022 18:42

placewherewebelong · 27/06/2022 18:36

But...at the risk of repeating myself...its not bloody lighthearted, is it.

Well it is, isn’t it? Are Otherkin, spacecatgender, cupioromantic and catpacigender serious gender “identities”, or are they meant to be lighthearted?

Or do you really think we have to seriously believe that teenagers are spacecats or that’s terribly disrespectful of us?

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 18:44

If this wasn’t a lighthearted thread, I’d have been very very angry for being called a transphobe.

placewherewebelong · 27/06/2022 18:46

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 18:40

The only person making it not light hearted is you @place. I’m sorry we are not doing what you want and that makes you sad, but you do know you don’t have to stay on this thread. No one does. We have the right to say what we wish within site guidelines and you have the right to reply or to ignore. I think people are miffed because you have scolded us, insulted people, called names and made ridiculous statements.

You can do as you like, but I'm entitled to an opinion on it. If you read mu original post it just said it makes me sad to see grown women being gleefully mocking. Bloody hell. Crime of the century? I've given as good as I've got - and I actually apologised for that this morning
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'Us'- you sound like a playground bully. All you have done on this thread is track my posts and movements, jump in to take the piss out of me with other posters and make out like youce all been perfectly reasonable and I'm a big dragon
Parr of the reason I habenr jusr binned it off and muted it is because I kisr know itl be 20 pages like this morning of how mean place hasnt answered our questions

You are not the spokeswoman or all things MN however much you wish you were.j

placewherewebelong · 27/06/2022 18:47

nightwakingmoon · 27/06/2022 18:42

Well it is, isn’t it? Are Otherkin, spacecatgender, cupioromantic and catpacigender serious gender “identities”, or are they meant to be lighthearted?

Or do you really think we have to seriously believe that teenagers are spacecats or that’s terribly disrespectful of us?

I honestly cant say the same things 34 times. I've made my position clesr. The fact you sont like it is not my problem.

nightwakingmoon · 27/06/2022 18:50

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 18:44

If this wasn’t a lighthearted thread, I’d have been very very angry for being called a transphobe.

Indeed - and wasn’t place who started talking about trans at all?

This started as a lighthearted thread about different types of gender identity, some of which are, as we’ve seen, a bit silly and lighthearted themselves. I do actually highly doubt that there are teenagers out there who genuinely think they are cats with dummies. So why are we not allowed to mock this stuff gently in return?

Either some of it is a bit silly and so we can perfectly well gently mock it; or no-one is allowed to treat it lighthearted it because identifying as a cat is JUST like being a transwoman.

Either someone has massively overreacted; or it’s actually a great moral sin to say that identifying as a spacecat is not actually real, because that’s mocking trans people. Which is it?

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 18:57

It was @nightwakingmoon apparently we were mocking the most vulnerable and oppressed group of people ever. No one had brought transpeople into it at that point, we were mocking the Tumblr and Reddit idiots who conflate a personality with a gender, and demand to be included in the trans umbrella for that reason. I think this does transpeople a huge disservice as it results in mo one taking any of the gender nonsense seriously.

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 18:58

In other news, I am no longer solgender, I am now weathergender as this incorporates, sol, rain and foggy genders. Solgender was too constricting

placewherewebelong · 27/06/2022 19:00

nightwakingmoon · 27/06/2022 18:50

Indeed - and wasn’t place who started talking about trans at all?

This started as a lighthearted thread about different types of gender identity, some of which are, as we’ve seen, a bit silly and lighthearted themselves. I do actually highly doubt that there are teenagers out there who genuinely think they are cats with dummies. So why are we not allowed to mock this stuff gently in return?

Either some of it is a bit silly and so we can perfectly well gently mock it; or no-one is allowed to treat it lighthearted it because identifying as a cat is JUST like being a transwoman.

Either someone has massively overreacted; or it’s actually a great moral sin to say that identifying as a spacecat is not actually real, because that’s mocking trans people. Which is it?

@Conflictedunicorn

is there a reason you two are outright lying?

It's in the OP.

"If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender."

I'll accept my apology for a blatant lie.

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 19:01

As soon as I get yours for calling me a transphobe @place.

placewherewebelong · 27/06/2022 19:04

nightwakingmoon · 27/06/2022 18:50

Indeed - and wasn’t place who started talking about trans at all?

This started as a lighthearted thread about different types of gender identity, some of which are, as we’ve seen, a bit silly and lighthearted themselves. I do actually highly doubt that there are teenagers out there who genuinely think they are cats with dummies. So why are we not allowed to mock this stuff gently in return?

Either some of it is a bit silly and so we can perfectly well gently mock it; or no-one is allowed to treat it lighthearted it because identifying as a cat is JUST like being a transwoman.

Either someone has massively overreacted; or it’s actually a great moral sin to say that identifying as a spacecat is not actually real, because that’s mocking trans people. Which is it?

I'm honestly banging my head off a wall here. How any of you can put your hand on your heart and say my first post was so outrageous it's earned this level of chat is beyond me. There is a reason these boards have the rep they do, even AIBU isn't as playground.

I never said you weren't allowed, fs! I had an opinion over 24 hours that is apparently so hurtful to your egos that we must be still be talking about it all this time later!

I never actually commented on the "cats with dummies" or whatever else you're talking about.

I'm referring directly to the posts about identifying as trees and ponies and claiming to be part of a group wher eyou are categorically not, and ripping hte absolute piss out of people.

I've given up bothering about that though, since you are all so engrained in that way of talking and so pleased with yourselves and each other that you stand no chance of seeing how utterly mean girls it looks.

placewherewebelong · 27/06/2022 19:04

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 19:01

As soon as I get yours for calling me a transphobe @place.

In your own words, if I said what I thought I'd be banned. I'll stick with not a chance.

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 19:12

I'm referring directly to the posts about identifying as trees and ponies and claiming to be part of a group wher eyou are categorically not, and ripping hte absolute piss out of people.

how do you know we are not those things? Earlier in the thread you said that if a teen were to say they were catgender, we should respect that. So it’s ok for a teen to identify as catgender , which is plainly batshittery crazy, but we are not allowed to point our that it is batshittery crazy. Stonewall dies say that you must believe people when they tell you how they identify, so you not respecting our identities is a bit bigoted no? Either Self ID is acceptable fir all, or it is not. I am on the ‘not’ side. How about you?

nightwakingmoon · 27/06/2022 19:18

Well, there’s only one thing for it…

A new gender just dropped! It’s called “phobegender”, and it’s for those who identify with being unjustly called a “phobe” on the internet. Pronouns phobe/phobeself and YES you better make sure you don’t misgender me.
Flag is two rainbow bunnies rampant on a field of gules, knife sinister. You can thank me later 😃 (NB flag copyright me 2022 #terfsdni)

placewherewebelong · 27/06/2022 19:21

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 19:12

I'm referring directly to the posts about identifying as trees and ponies and claiming to be part of a group wher eyou are categorically not, and ripping hte absolute piss out of people.

how do you know we are not those things? Earlier in the thread you said that if a teen were to say they were catgender, we should respect that. So it’s ok for a teen to identify as catgender , which is plainly batshittery crazy, but we are not allowed to point our that it is batshittery crazy. Stonewall dies say that you must believe people when they tell you how they identify, so you not respecting our identities is a bit bigoted no? Either Self ID is acceptable fir all, or it is not. I am on the ‘not’ side. How about you?

I'm not going to engage with you when you repeatedly call me bigoted and try and be clever. You have proved to be disingenuous and I see right through you.

I'm done with this thread, and will be avoiding any with certain names on it now I've seen them for who they are on MN.

This is no flounce, I just have more in my life than time to say the same things over and over and over. The lesson I have learned is that next time I see something I think is unfair , I will just ignore it, I won't try and comment or engage in any way. Great lesson taught there, MNers. Enjoy your echo chamber (and I'm sure the three or four of you will have a good hehe about how awful I am). You're welcome to, I won't be reading it anyway.

@CandyLeBonBon - I genuinely missed your question. In answer to it, I struggle with the concept of trans race , and thereofre wouldn't post about it nor would I mock it online. Cause that's, 37 pages ago, what I objected to.

What you have shown int he last 2 days is if you object to people mick taking and ripping the piss, you will also have it relentlessly ripped out of you until you back off.

If that's the posters you want to be - fair play. I'm just disappointed with myself I let you goad me. Enough.

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 19:22

Oh at @nightwakingmoon that fits me perfectly. I am definitely phobegender, and I love the flag.

VestofAbsurdity · 27/06/2022 20:01

You've said you've gone but in case you are still reading @placewherewebelong In answer to it, I struggle with the concept of trans race , and thereofre wouldn't post about it nor would I mock it online.

I would hazard a guess that the reason you struggle with the concept of trans race is because if it was answered honestly it would throw a grenade into the whole of concept of Gender Ideology.

Secondly, you are very miffed and upset that posters are in your view mocking Gender Ideology, however, as Ricky Gervais said no-one will find a ten year old tweet saying Women don't have penises because no-one thought they'd bloody well have to point out the fecking obvious, now if you do you risk being banned from social media, receive rape and death threats, may be doxxed, your employer will be targeted and you may well be reported to the Police for a non-crime hate incident or worse. Now, due to this ideology we have the Leader of HM's Opposition stating that "It is not right to say that only women have a cervix" and another Labour politician stating with a straight face that a male paedophile rapist who identifies as a woman should be in the female prison estate. I know politicians speak a whole load of horseshit but never did I think that I would hear that level of dangerous horseshit, maybe if the piss had been ripped out of Gender Ideology much earlier and it exposed for what it is we would not be in the position where the Leader of the Opposition and Labour MPs come out with that kind of crap.

Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 20:38

Hear hear @VestofAbsurdity i think the problem was no one said ‘are you on glue’.

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