Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

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I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

D’you know, there’s nothing that all this gender identity stuff reminds me of more, than the hysteria after Princess Diana died. It’s like a whole generation of people have lost their collective heads to some kind of mass irrationalism.

Yes that's a really apt comparison. Except luckily there wasn't much social media then for people to whip themselves up even further into hyperbole.

Yes, I think you're spoiling for a fight - that's the impression your behaviour is giving me. This is my personal opinion and I'm forming it based on the evidence I see before me. That's it, really.

Yes, the religious belief in a gendered / sexed soul. That is not the “concept of trans”, it’s an idiocy that activists like you have come up with relatively recently.

As for people’s views, You are having a laugh. Males are being excluded from women’s sports, organisations are distancing themselves from Stonewall, the government is speaking out in support of women’s rights to single-sex spaces.

The evil that you achieved in the shadows is being undone in full daylight, and I, for one, am very glad.

Thankfully, you are not winning the argument. You might be on MN which is very wonderful, but the vast majority of people are in support of trans and against this form of "feminism".

No they aren't. Most people aren't radical feminists, but neither are they subscribers to your ideology.

I'm not an activist. I don't agree with mixed sports, Stonewall or mixed spaces.

Your next point?

That’ll be the disingenuity, the twisting of others words, the goading, the insults and the outright lies.

were you not the author of the post about 3 letters?

What do you think she meant?

I'd love to see your statistics. I think most people are like my viewpoint - they dont agree with mixed spaces and sports etc, but they dont agree with the mocking and taking the piss. What a shocking view to have.

The poster above who cleverly implied its simply about sex - thats transphobic. Claiming anyone who is trans must have gender dysphoria - transphobic. Mocking and laughing at someone because they are trans - transphobic.

trees- transphobic
weather- transphobic
biology- transphobic
women talking - transphobic
not centring trans people -transphobic
Dogs - transphobic
now tell me again as all these things have been labelled transphobic at one time or another why I am not allowed to mock this bullshit? If I said trees were a symbol of the patriarchy I’d deserve to be mocked, so why not if someone calls them transphobic? I thought transpeople wanted equal treatment?

It was bloody obvious what she meant.

I'd love to see your statistics. I think most people are like my viewpoint - they dont agree with mixed spaces and sports etc, but they dont agree with the mocking and taking the piss. What a shocking view to have.

If you say so.

Could you show me examples of this?

It was bloody obvious what she meant.

Not to other people, it might not be. Maybe spell out what you think she meant and why you think it's "irrational fear or hatred of transpeople"

Why do you expect me, a woman, to do your emotional Labour for you? Educate yourself. If you don’t know why these things are transphobic how can you call yourself a trans ally? Surely if you knew the slightest thing about transpeople you would have known exactly why all these things are problematic. Are you just virtue signaling?

Could you show me examples of this?

It would be quicker to show you examples of things which aren't considered transphobic. That won't take long.

I'd like to know where dogs and weather are transphobic.

I give in. Just to shut @placewherewebelong up. The three letters were WTF. Happy now? Now please explain why they are transphobic or why your mind immediately jumped to me being a transphobe because I said I could think of 3 letters. You’ve really shown yourself there havent you?

I'd like to know where dogs and weather are transphobic.

how come I, a transphobe, according to you, know this and you, a so called trans ally don’t. Could it be you are not a trans ally, but a misogynist just coming here to get their kicks shouting at women? I’ll accept your apology for calling me a transphobe any time you like BTW. (That’s 3 more letters for you )

Not really. I can't stand this constant assertion that an opinion on a global topic somehow makes you some type of person.

It doesn't.

I might vehemently disagree with people i know about a variety of topics. Doesn't change my opinion of them.

Shutting women up? oh. watch, the wee gang of MN will be after you (oh no they wont, cause its only OK to shut women up when they disagree!)

Not really. I can't stand this constant assertion that an opinion on a global topic somehow makes you some type of person.

you called me a transphobe because I won’t agree with you. This comment right here shows you’re a hypocrite.

No, I didnt. I said you're a transphobe based on your views. Nothing to do with not agreeing with me.

I'm over on another thread where I will fight womens' rights to have an abortion til the day I die. On that topic, I'm behind women always.

I just dont agree wtih the mocking of trans people. It's that simple.

Not answered it though, have you? Let me guess - was it someone on twitter?

Google is your friend. Enjoy. No it wasn’t Twitter. And you still haven’t explained how I , who according to you, falls under the umbrella of trans, can be a transphobe? As a sungender, I am classed as trans and can mock the ideology if I wish? Or are you saying these genders do not count as trans and therefore mocking them is fine? And you can’t say I’m not sungender or that’s transphobic and invalidating my identity. Self ID says I can be sun gender if I say I am.

I just dont agree wtih the mocking of trans people. It's that simple.

I've seen people making fun of the language and terminology used within the trans/nb community. I haven't seen any attacks on trans people specifically though? I agree the language surrounding this whole issue is muddy, and obfuscates reality. It IS ridiculous that you can no longer define a woman and that these circular arguments render rational conversation impossible. That deserves mockery imo. But no one has mocked trans people.

disingenous.