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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Breaking news - Emily won't compete

382 replies

Doyoumind · 30/03/2022 19:29

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/60934099

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Cwenthryth · 31/03/2022 12:41

So, they’ve just played a clip of Sajid Javid saying “it should be about sex not gender, and sex is biological sex”

Stella Creasy thinks it’s not for politicians to comment

littlbrowndog · 31/03/2022 12:41

@ResisterRex

Bit concerning on BBC2 that it's all:
  • research isn't there
  • focus on elite athletes
  • focus on bravery of trans

This misses:

  • biological reality, as though women can form the answer in the form of being research objects
  • we won't have elite female athletes if women's sport becomes mixed sex
  • no recognition of the silencing of FEMALE ATHLETES
Yeah.
ResisterRex · 31/03/2022 12:41

Stella - "some women have penises" Hmm

BellatrixOnABadDay · 31/03/2022 12:42

@littlbrowndog

Stella creasy

Pure idiot

'A woman is an adult human female but some women are born women and some be some women'

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:42

Creasey is an embarrassment. Apparently we shouldn't be obsessed with what is in people's underwear. Was she the one who couldn't say what a woman is recently? She's literally just said a woman is an Adult Human Female BUT some women are born male. Sigh. Can I sneak into your time machine, Bellatrix?

BellatrixOnABadDay · 31/03/2022 12:43

@bellabelly

Clip of Sajid Javid saying that categories should be based on biological sex rather than gender. Good.
I never, ever thought I'd be tempted to vote Tory and the thought still turns my stomach but what option is there now
lobbymp · 31/03/2022 12:43

Good.

How and why was she competing as a male around a month ago. How can you attempt to switch competitions so swiftly?!

ResisterRex · 31/03/2022 12:44

Creasy - "suicide levels are legion" in trans community

There is no hope.

Feelingoktoday · 31/03/2022 12:44

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

What is the max testosterone levels permitted in female athletes?
It isn’t just that though. Women are not men with lower testosterone. We are women and deserve our own sport.
springtimeishereagain · 31/03/2022 12:44

What a useless article. It doesn't say WHY Emily can't compete. Which rule has Emily broken?? That would be helpful to know.

And why the hell is British Cycling such a misogynistic organisation? Why don't THEY know the rules?!

The mind boggles.

Cwenthryth · 31/03/2022 12:45

Haha. Stella thinks that a woman is an adult human female but that includes men who become women (so can have a penis). Well that’s clear then. Asking for clarity means we want titillation, apparently!

BellatrixOnABadDay · 31/03/2022 12:45

@bellabelly what year do we set it to? 😁

I was born in the late 80s and when i was a teenager in the early/mid 00s things were NOT like this

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 31/03/2022 12:46

@ResisterRex

Creasy - "suicide levels are legion" in trans community

There is no hope.

I'd be interested to know what inside information Creasey has and why it's being withheld from coroners. Doesn't she have a duty to report this information on so many levels?

Legion is a very large number.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/03/2022 12:46

Creasy - "suicide levels are legion" in trans community

Pants on fire, and even if it were true, why the fuck would it be relevant to women's sport?

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:47

It's certainly how I get my rocks off on a Thursday lunchtime, Cwenthryth! It's just another attempt at silencing people who disagree - you're all perverts!!!

ATrifleofFun · 31/03/2022 12:48

@bellabelly I have no idea how you would achieve elite status when everyone you trained with was having growth spurts and you weren't.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/03/2022 12:48

It's just another attempt at silencing people who disagree - you're all perverts!!!

It's TRA DARVOspeak.

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:48

@Bellatrix - I was born in the 70s - v happy to go back to the good old days of the 1980s when Boy George, Marilyn et al could put on a frock and lipstick without needing to claim they were actual women.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 31/03/2022 12:49

And why the hell is British Cycling such a misogynistic organisation? Why don't THEY know the rules?!

Well, you can spend large sums of money achieving tiny, marginal gains that add up to race winning differences of 0.5—1% or you can accept the inadvertently high value, low cost gift horse of the sort of 10-15% difference that Bridges represents. All BC has to do is abandon any notion of fairness or pretence to be interested in the sustainability of women's sports…

springtimeishereagain · 31/03/2022 12:49

I honestly don't understand what all the chest beating and gnashing of teeth is about trying to find a fair way for athletes to compete.

Just say no to ALL men in women's sports!!! It's not rocket science.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/03/2022 12:50

I agree, it's not fucking difficult.

littlbrowndog · 31/03/2022 12:50

Why does creasy always say this stuff

Most marginalised. Legion suicide

If I was a transgender person I would be dead angry being treated like a child and to be pitied

She’s an idiot. And a patronising one at that

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:52

I can't help wondering if eventually they'll have to create a new category of sport for CIS Women. It shouldn't have to happen but at the moment it's the only option I can see that would resolve the issue.

WinterTrees · 31/03/2022 12:52

The suicide line has been so thoroughly debunked by now she's either woefully uninformed (which is unforgivable) or being deliberately misleading (also unforgivable.)

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:53

I agree, littlbrowndog - it's so patronising.