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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling on Keir Starmer

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NancyDrawed · 12/03/2022 14:20

In the Daily Mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10605735/JK-Rowling-slams-Keir-Starmer-Labour-leader-says-trans-women-women.html

'This hill we're all supposed to be dying on is mighty crowded, isn't it? And we all seem very lively, too...'

Love her!

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Milomonster · 12/03/2022 17:18

@NancyDrawed please could I have details about the Hyde Park gatherings?

I think it’s great she continues to speak for women in this issue. I haven’t met a single woman who disagrees with her.

DrSbaitso · 12/03/2022 17:20

@Enough4me

I love it when men tell women to shut up, it highlights that they have nothing to counter back and their testosterone has blown through the roof.
There is a reason why so much of the trans rights movement (not all, of course) relies on name calling. They haven't got anything else.

Terf...is there a shitter insult out there? It doesn't even make sense. Everyone who doesn't agree is a radical feminist? Do these twats even know what a radical feminist is?

Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits...

HRTQueen · 12/03/2022 17:20

Why is she small minded

Trans women are not women you can not change biology

Not matter how many times something is said it doesn’t change facts

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/03/2022 17:22

As someone above said, she is entitled to an opinion. As am I.

Demanding that a woman ''shut up'' isn't an opinion though, is it?

DrSbaitso · 12/03/2022 17:24

@BiggerBoat1

She is small minded.

She may not understand trans women, but does that give her the right to be so completely lacking in empathy?

As someone above said, she is entitled to an opinion. As am I. I see nothing to admire in her.

I have redefined "small minded" to mean "brave, heroic and entirely correct". Thank you for your support.

Are you able to empathise with a woman who has spent the last two years being told to choke on penises, die in grease fires and be raped with cacti, by male people claiming to be women and wanting access to women's spaces based on nothing more than this self-definition?

CrossPurposes · 12/03/2022 17:25

@BiggerBoat1

She is small minded.

She may not understand trans women, but does that give her the right to be so completely lacking in empathy?

As someone above said, she is entitled to an opinion. As am I. I see nothing to admire in her.

"I believe the majority of trans-identified people not only pose zero threat to others, but are vulnerable for all the reasons I’ve outlined. Trans people need and deserve protection. Like women, they’re most likely to be killed by sexual partners. Trans women who work in the sex industry, particularly trans women of colour, are at particular risk. Like every other domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor I know, I feel nothing but empathy and solidarity with trans women who’ve been abused by men."

Maybe this reads differently to you than it does to me?

Blossomtoes · 12/03/2022 17:25

She may not understand trans women

Au contraire, she understands them all too well. Which is why she riles them so much.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 12/03/2022 17:25

@BiggerBoat1

She's awful and needs to shut up. Plenty of people on here lapping up her bullshit though I see!
Er, why?
tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 12/03/2022 17:26

When someone says a woman "needs to shut up" you know said woman is talking sense and ruffling feathers.

Grin
DrSbaitso · 12/03/2022 17:28

In fact, can one of you...people please explain this to me?

I am a born female. I don't like menstruating and I don't like the idea of menopause and the end of my fertile years. I didn't like childbirth and I don't like the changes pregnancy made to my body.

Why is it that, much as I dislike these unavoidable biologic realities, nobody thinks I should be shielded from them and pretend they aren't real? But we are not supposed ever to acknowledge the biological reality that transwomen are not and never will be sexed female?

Why the double standard?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/03/2022 17:32

@BiggerBoat1

She is small minded.

She may not understand trans women, but does that give her the right to be so completely lacking in empathy?

As someone above said, she is entitled to an opinion. As am I. I see nothing to admire in her.

Please show where she lacks empathy? She's right that womens safe spaces should be protected. She also believes in trans rights, but that trans rights are not womens rights.
Realityisreal · 12/03/2022 17:32

@BiggerBoat1 she is filled with empathy for women of the adult human female variety, you know, the group that transwomen demand to be a part of but have so little respect for. If they did respect or empathise with us they would understand the need for single sex spaces and clear definitions but that would involve effort whereas shouting and belittling people is effortless.
Where is your empathy for adult human females with very genuine safety and safeguarding concerns?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/03/2022 17:34

@BiggerBoat1

She's awful and needs to shut up. Plenty of people on here lapping up her bullshit though I see!
Ahh she needs to shut up. So no actual debate, you just simply want to silence someone whose views aren't your own? Interesting. Or maybe it's that the more women like her speak, the larger the voice becomes as more women (and men) stand with her.
Whatsnewpussyhat · 12/03/2022 17:35

Why the double standard?

Because we aren't allowed to hurt male feelings.
We must be good support humans and not point out reality.

DrSbaitso · 12/03/2022 17:36

Pissing myself that so many people think they can shut up JKR, of all people, with name calling. She had a seven-book plot point based on the importance of not being scared of a word. No wonder so many of these eejits are boycotting her books. Have they ever read anything that wasn't printed on a cereal box?

HoneyItIsntGoodLuck · 12/03/2022 17:41

@itsnotdeep

The young people (and gay men) in my office loathe her. But she's in a fortunate position of being able to visibly and actively not care what they think.

In any case, I think what she's doing is brilliant.

Fascinating isn’t it?

Gay men shout loudly about transwomen being women. But are oddly silent about transmen being men.

Gay men know exactly who is a man and who isn’t. Their sexuality is defined by it.

Show me one gay man in a relationship with a man with a vagina, and I’ll eat my words.

suckingonchillidogs · 12/03/2022 17:41

@tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz

When someone says a woman "needs to shut up" you know said woman is talking sense and ruffling feathers.

Grin

So true
HoneyItIsntGoodLuck · 12/03/2022 17:43

@BiggerBoat1

She's awful and needs to shut up. Plenty of people on here lapping up her bullshit though I see!
You need to make your peace with the fact that not only is she not going to shut up, she’s only going to get more vocal.
spacehardware · 12/03/2022 17:46

I adore JKR

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/03/2022 17:47

JKR is a shero. Idk if she ever reads about herself on here. But thank you! 👏👏👏

spacehardware · 12/03/2022 17:47

Anyway i didn't vote Labour during the Corbyn years due to anti Semitism and now I won't vote Labour due to their misogyny.

MissyB1 · 12/03/2022 17:48

Young gay men shout loudly about supporting trans women because they often like to shout loudly about … well anything really. I work with a few young gay men and they all love to be loud and attention seek, it can be quite exhausting to listen to all day.
But saying that, older gay men I know are not like that, so perhaps it’s just a youth thing 🤔

DrSbaitso · 12/03/2022 17:49

Friendly reminder to take all of JKR's books out of the library regularly, even and especially if that means you have to order them, to show your support.

HoneyItIsntGoodLuck · 12/03/2022 17:50

But again - gay men only care about transwomen. Clearly they identify more strongly with transwomen because they’re actually male-bodied people (men).

They couldn’t give a shit about transmen - and certainly wouldn’t have sex with one.

The hypocrisy.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 12/03/2022 17:50

She an absolute star!! The only voice of reason thats actually fighting for womens rights. Love her

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