Woman on ward - complains about male patient. Is discharged.

[KittenKong]

Going on twitter. She was in a Women’s ward (signage says ‘women’ but later this was disputed by staff).

Another patient on ward ‘Annie’ (not real name). Visitor comes in ‘Hello Fred’.

Woman patient complains that there is a male in the ward. Staff come on handed and tell her that there isn’t (and that there were no single sec wards) - and treated as if she is a troublemaker.

Woman mysteriously discharged PDQ, although not quite feeling well enough in herself.

twitter.com/gillyism/status/1486596070096478209?s=21

Baroness is on the case.

Disgraceful.

I love this reply, though, made me feel a tad emotional:
"I have noticed how many women now know to call on the baroness, like a lonely hopeful prayer whispered to the moon, and then she appears, like a goddess, and grace flows as a balm into an aching heart."

Appalling. One of my worst nightmares. We read yesterday that the EHRC are shortly going to send the Scottish government information on single sex spaces, which also apply to E&W, so that'll be great to have that clarification. We'll probably need to take a printed copy into hospital with us if we're admitted.

Or sounds as if ‘Annie’ was a disruptive force on the ward too. I hate being in a hospital at the best of times and form it very unnerving (you just can’t sleep). I can’t imagine how a DV survivor would feel.

This is also my worst nightmare. I've told my DH want he needs to do on my behalf if this happens. Another thing women have to guard against.

This poor woman, so angry for her, what were the staff thinking? They did the very opposite of what they are supposed to do. Medical provision and safeguarding. It doesn't sound like she was fit to go home.

Gill has not posted a heartbreaking old photo of herself - my gosh she is a fighter.

How can the staff be so pathetic and stupid? I hope the Baroness can really run with this.

This is awful.

The staff lying to her face like that is a firm of abuse. You don't go to hospital to be abused. I hope the baroness heslts things sorted. So she can resume her treatment safety in a single sex ward.

Thank God for the Baroness...

@Whatwouldscullydo

This is awful.

The staff lying to her face like that is a firm of abuse. You don't go to hospital to be abused. I hope the baroness heslts things sorted. So she can resume her treatment safety in a single sex ward.

I would have a bloody stroke.

It’s day!
Noooo kitten, it’s night
But I can see the sun high in the sky!
Nooo kitten, there’s no sun there
It’s light!
It’s dark!

When I was little my siblings would tell me mad lies to wind me up - I have never been able to keep quiet when someone tells me a blatant porky to my face.

@ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted

Disgraceful.

I love this reply, though, made me feel a tad emotional:
"I have noticed how many women now know to call on the baroness, like a lonely hopeful prayer whispered to the moon, and then she appears, like a goddess, and grace flows as a balm into an aching heart."

For anyone who's seen the tv series, Grimm it's the same vibe as the people who would call to El Cucuy to come and save them.

For many years, El Cucuy have inspired legends in Spanish speaking cultures of a bogeyman-like namesake who punishes those that have done wrong.

I'm in Scotland a day have been in hospital many times due to chronic illness/disability.
My closest hospital has multi bed wards and I flatly refuse to go there and whilst this isn't, or hasn't yet been the main reason, it's one of them.
I insist on being taken to the next nearest, (5 minutes difference), which is all private rooms.

FFS. I don’t know which emotion is bigger for me reading that - fear, anger, sadness. I have no other words.

I'm pretty sure that I read the guidance for staff from NHS trusts (Glasgow and a couple of others I think) that tells staff that they must lie to female patients

@KittenKong I would have a bloody stroke.

It’s day!
Noooo kitten, it’s night
But I can see the sun high in the sky!
Nooo kitten, there’s no sun there
It’s light!
It’s dark!

When I was little my siblings would tell me mad lies to wind me up - I have never been able to keep quiet when someone tells me a blatant porky to my face.

Just as an aside...

When I had an op last year, they put inflating things around my shins to stop blood clots. The ruddy things inflated & deflated all night long, which stopped me sleeping properly & (with the after-effects of the anaesthetic) may explain this:

I woke in the early hours & pressed the call button as I thought the inflating things had fallen off & were on the floor, where they were still noisily going about their business. The nurse came in & told me it was OK, they were on my legs.

Me: No, they're on the floor.
Nurse: I promise you, they're where they should be.
Me: No, they're on the floor.
Nurse helps me to see them ON MY LEGS.
I consider this.
Me: But they're on the floor!

Another nurse comes in to see what's going on, & they say dreams like this are common after an op. I've seen the inflatey things on my legs, I know the nurses are right, yet I'm lying there silently furious that they won't take me seriously when I'm right & they're on the floor.

I'm so, so sorry to those nurses.

I was once admitted to a completely mixed ward. When the shift changed, the new ward leader/sister (sorry not v clued up about job titles) insisted that all the men were moved to one side and all the women to the other, with screens down the middle.

I was surprised how reassuring this was.

We really are living in a dystopian world as predicted by many authors.
Wrong-speak and wrong-think will get you booted out of hospital when you are sick.
Terrifying.

We are being gaslit. It's enough to drive a woman insane. Mysoginistic bullying on a huge scale.

Having had the misfortune to read the Transgender Care Policy in the large teaching hospital which is my employer, I can confirm it unequivocally states that staff have to gaslight patients. It doesn't use those words, of course. But it is clear nonetheless. If we don't, we are breaking patient confidentially (of the trans patient, no one gives a shit about the others), and will be subject to disciplinary proceedings and possibly reporting for hate crime. Its grim for adult human females in hospital as staff, as well as patients.

@nothingcomestonothing

You might be interested in this group, if you haven't already found them.

twitter.com/sexnotgendernm/status/1485968719671173124?s=21

I hope you and your female colleagues are able to speak about this. I can't imagine how bloody awful it must be for you. Like forced betrayal? I'm not sure the best way to describe it. It must take a great deal to do your job under these ridiculous, unsafe policies.

The thing I find sad as well is that the rights don't apply to mental health.

If you look on twitter someone posted the rights we have with regard to single sex environments. It basically says it applies to sleeping arrangements and bathrooms/toilets, but then goes on to say that on MH wards women should have access to 'women-only day spaces' yet they don't have the right to be in a women only sleeping arrangement - why?

@nothingcomestonothing

Having had the misfortune to read the Transgender Care Policy in the large teaching hospital which is my employer, I can confirm it unequivocally states that staff have to gaslight patients. It doesn't use those words, of course. But it is clear nonetheless. If we don't, we are breaking patient confidentially (of the trans patient, no one gives a shit about the others), and will be subject to disciplinary proceedings and possibly reporting for hate crime. Its grim for adult human females in hospital as staff, as well as patients.

Prison staff appear to be under the same obligation. Ex-governor of Cornton Vale Rhona Hotchkiss has given disturbing examples of this, and ex-Prison Officer Anne Ryzylo.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfTBEXqGQM

Will this be extended to patients in mental facilities who believe that they have 100 personalities inside them?
What about if someone thinks they are Napoleon or Queen Victoria? Will it be phobic of the mental health team to deny the reality and indulge the "feeling" instead and tell them that. yes, you ARE Queen Victoria and your feelings are true and valid.
Or do you think they would recognise this person needed help and not gaslight the rest of the ward into complying and reinforcing the delusion?
How has it come to be, that the person with the issue gets to dictate how the rest of the world has to behave for fear of upsetting that one person?

How has it come to be, that the person with the issue gets to dictate how the rest of the world has to behave for fear of upsetting that one person?

The one person with the issue is of the class of humans which matter, the rest are of the class that don't. However they 'identify', the whole structure is built to meet the needs of the important kind of human. This ideology really does bring home the reality of misogyny, and how deeply embedded it is.

Correction, I've found his account and he appears to be in Dublin, not the NHS.