Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kellie Jay on Talk Radio with James Max

442 replies

Mollyollydolly · 29/12/2021 12:32

Worth a watch. How much do men hate women who say 'no'. When speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.

twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1476131289870778374

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
Omicrone · 31/12/2021 17:01

'Ulrika' is trending on Twitter!!!!

(Her name is Ulrike I think but Talk Radio spelt it Ulrika in their tweet, hence the other spelling).

Fantastic!

Imnobody4 · 31/12/2021 17:03

Good lord he's still intent on digging the hole he's in - will be reaching Australia soon.

Go Ulrika, you're a star.
twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1476928399520280578?t=IEktHXqx3aRhRdBIU2lGtQ&s=19

Following his clash with Kellie Jay-Keen over 'sex based rights', Ulrika in York tells James Max: "The word woman is our word."

"If you say trans women are women, you are erasing our sex class."

@thejamesmax | @StandingforXX t.co/RKW8JWogiS

PronounssheRa · 31/12/2021 17:04

James Max "reflects" in a monologue

Has he explained what the 'darker truth' is that he alluded to in a previous tweet? Or was this just another tiresome attempt to smear women?

MrsMadderRose · 31/12/2021 17:04

Oh the homophobic gay panic argument. The bigoted, conservative homophobic panic that’s coming from all those gay people and feminists. Against the ideology that says being same-sex-attracted is bigoted and wrong Hmm

Omicrone · 31/12/2021 17:07

So many eye opening things on this thread, particularly:

-Men are baffled when a woman stands her ground, but are even more baffled by feminine, glamourous, 'beautiful' women who stand their ground and say 'no, I'm not having this'. It's so bizarre to watch! I agree that part of people's 'interest' in KJ is that to look at she is gender conforming, but her behaviour (ie. Steadfast in her views, no 'lady doubt', doesn't give a shit, will not budge) is very gender non-conforming. People, particularly men, find it difficult to get their head around that.

  • Men think that women are so inferior that any man who wants to be a woman must really believe that they are one. Otherwise why would they degrade themselves in such a way?
Omicrone · 31/12/2021 17:10

Where are the TRAs coming out to support James Max?

I thought they would be all over this!

ArabellaScott · 31/12/2021 17:12

Has even India abandoned James?

Mollyollydolly · 31/12/2021 17:16

#Ulrika is now trending. The gift that keeps on giving.
mobile.twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1476928399520280578

OP posts:
Mollyollydolly · 31/12/2021 17:23

Sorry cross posted and sorry they spelt your name wrong amazing woman!

OP posts:
Linguini · 31/12/2021 17:49

Is Ulrika on here?? Anyone know her??
She needs to know she's the star of NYE 2021 ⭐

Datun · 31/12/2021 18:02

@BattyOrange

For me, one of the most interesting parts about all this is the massive pushback that James Max is getting. From every quarter.

It's almost as though, having heard the words "men can't be women" and "no men in women's spaces" spoken out loud on the radio and repeated on the internet people (mainly women, I think) have jumped on a massive wave of courage to say they agree. And the more women see other women saying what they think the bigger the wave gets.
It warms my heart.

Yes!

Posie Parker is the little boy who is pointing at the emperor and saying, oh come ON, he's completely naked.

Suddenly all these people who thought there must surely, honest to God, be more to it than they understand, finally realise that nooo, there fucking isn't.

There. Really. Really. Isn't.

No wonder that woman has been chucked off every possible platform, targeted, doxxed, threatened (really, almost the worst threats you can imagine involving her children), and threatened, by the police, with arrest (for using the word castration).

They recognise her power.

And yes, she's a suicide blonde, who adores her husband and would die for her children, with painted nails and eyebrows totally on point.

It must be fucking killing them 🤣

KeflavikAirport · 31/12/2021 18:05

when James Max said everyone under 35 believes TWAW, I would have fucking loved it if she'd said how do you know what age I identify as?

ArabellaScott · 31/12/2021 18:22

@KeflavikAirport

when James Max said everyone under 35 believes TWAW, I would have fucking loved it if she'd said how do you know what age I identify as?
Yes, but the other question is - so what?! Why would we take for a more complete and knowledgeable response that of people under 35? Is he really suggesting we discount the knowledge of everyone over 35? On what fucking basis?!
KeflavikAirport · 31/12/2021 18:23

Well of course. Also, go to Kabul and as the average 25 year old if they know the difference.

Berkspolix · 31/12/2021 18:24

Apart from JKR no one has done more for women this year than Kellie-Jay.

Team domesticated zombie FTW!

Datun · 31/12/2021 18:34

I have children under 35, and they do not subscribe to it whatsoever.

And that's not just because of me. I have asked them about them and their friends.

They say that there is a certain cohort who do subscribe, but its not representative.

They say people keep quiet so they're not targeted.

Funnily enough, almost the exact same process as those in the over 35 group.

Unless there is genuinely an attitude that claims the under 35s don't understand biology.

GoatsAndBarley · 31/12/2021 18:36

The only people that should be having a say in this debate is women. What ever age they are. And if some women object to having their sex based protections removed then that's the end of it. No one gets to remove the safeguards and protections of others, just because they might feel ok with it. And misogynistic, deeply unpleasant hard of thinking men like James Max certainly doesnt get a say in it. And he doesn't get to speak for women.

Bosky · 31/12/2021 19:07

Plonker Max has been getting into Witch Finder mode! Hmm

"The argument from KJ is a well honed piece of narrative to cover a much darker truth."

He has also been deleting tweets. The "shrill voices" one has gone but, poor James, it had been archived Smile

Search archive DOT today for:
twitter.com/thejamesmax/status/1476633423154487302

In fact, Search that Archive site and add the asterisk to see his foolishness and misogyny preserved:

twitter.com/thejamesmax/*

=====

A compilation of "James Max vs Reality and Women's Rights" YouTube videos so far.

It is a shame that YouTube has removed the "Dislike" count but the "Like" counts are revealing!

James Max clashes with campaigner over 'sex-based rights' and JK Rowling's 'trans-row'
TalkRadio 29 Dec

(358 Likes)

TalkRADIO James Max suggests I should be #cancelled #posieparker #Ineverlose
Kellie-Kay Keen 29 Dec

(1.6K Likes)

Debbie Hayton: 'The reality is there are two sexes. Male and female'
TalkRadio 30 Dec

(366 Likes)

James Max slams campaigner Kellie-Jay Keen for her views on gender
TalkRadio 30 Dec

(53 Likes)

Is #JamesMax Penis-Haver enough for round 2?
Kellie-Jay Keen 30 Dec

(1.2K Likes)

======

There are quite a few "Reaction" videos out there too. All the ones that I have seen are fully in support of Kellie-Jay and calling "Clown!" on Max.

Kellie Jay on Talk Radio with James Max
Berkspolix · 31/12/2021 19:08

The only people that should be having a say in this debate is women.

There's too many gay men and male AGP apologists sticking their oar in and muddying the waters at the moment.

Datun · 31/12/2021 19:20

@Bosky

Plonker Max has been getting into Witch Finder mode! Hmm

"The argument from KJ is a well honed piece of narrative to cover a much darker truth."

He has also been deleting tweets. The "shrill voices" one has gone but, poor James, it had been archived Smile

Search archive DOT today for:
twitter.com/thejamesmax/status/1476633423154487302

In fact, Search that Archive site and add the asterisk to see his foolishness and misogyny preserved:

twitter.com/thejamesmax/*

=====

A compilation of "James Max vs Reality and Women's Rights" YouTube videos so far.

It is a shame that YouTube has removed the "Dislike" count but the "Like" counts are revealing!

James Max clashes with campaigner over 'sex-based rights' and JK Rowling's 'trans-row'
TalkRadio 29 Dec

(358 Likes)

TalkRADIO James Max suggests I should be #cancelled #posieparker #Ineverlose
Kellie-Kay Keen 29 Dec

(1.6K Likes)

Debbie Hayton: 'The reality is there are two sexes. Male and female'
TalkRadio 30 Dec

(366 Likes)

James Max slams campaigner Kellie-Jay Keen for her views on gender
TalkRadio 30 Dec

(53 Likes)

Is #JamesMax Penis-Haver enough for round 2?
Kellie-Jay Keen 30 Dec

(1.2K Likes)

======

There are quite a few "Reaction" videos out there too. All the ones that I have seen are fully in support of Kellie-Jay and calling "Clown!" on Max.

Yeah it's one thing to court notoriety to boost your profile.

It's quite another to make yourself look like such a prat that your credibility goes down the pan and no one ever wants to listen to you again.

GoatsAndBarley · 31/12/2021 19:38

There's too many gay men and male AGP apologists sticking their oar in and muddying the waters at the moment

Is James gay? I think a truth has become clear regardless. That there are many men who do not like women having rights and safeguards. And too many female allies that are willing to give them up and sucker up to these males, who really do not give a shit about them.

Redshoeblueshoe · 31/12/2021 19:40

I would like to be in the studio when JHB gets back.

SantaClawsServiette · 31/12/2021 20:20

@Datun

That isn't really an entirely accurate description of Blanchard's research on AGP, if people are going to use the categories defined by him, use them, but he doesn't say that men with AGP are all walking around dressed as women to get a sexual thrill.

He says that men with autogynephilia have a 'target location error', where they are in sexual thrall to the idea of themselves as a woman. AGP is a paraphilia. Well documented, and talked about by men who have it from one end of the Internet to the other.

Of course, Ray Blanchard is no feminist quite clearly has a certain amount of sympathy for men with AGP.

I, on the other hand, reserve my sympathy for their wives and families whose harrowing experiences can be read on Trans Widows Voices and Children of Transitioners.

What does sympathy have to do with anything, or whether Blanchard is a feminist? I would hope that he's not base his observations around the causes of any psychological state on whether they seemed to be in line with any particular ideological position. If people here want to make the claim that they are basing their views on science rather than ideology, as opposed to the TRAs, then ideology shouldn't be a constraint. If his categories are relevant, than why not say what he actually said? But you implied that transition for people with AGP is so they can be sexually aroused when they are out in public as a woman, and that's not at all what Blanchard says is happening.

The claim was that KJ did likes DH, and presumably any one else in a similar position, for being "a self-confessed AGP." Yes, it's classed as a paraphilia, but that's not a moral choice, any more than someone having another identity or similar disorder. It's like saying you have a problem with someone because they have publicly admitted to having BPD. I can tell you, having a close family member with BPD is a heck of a lot easier if they have the self-awareness to confess it.

You don't actually have to think all people affected by any kind of disorder are shit or not worth listening to in order have sympathy for their spouses and kids, or even to listen to their Voices.

Datun · 31/12/2021 20:27

SantaClawsServiette

I couldn't care less if AGP is a choice or not. I don't want to see it in public, and I don't want to be an unwitting participant of it.

Neither do I want a man with it to speak on behalf of women who are opposed to it.

Berkspolix · 31/12/2021 20:39

Neither do I want a man with it to speak on behalf of women who are opposed to it.

👏👏👏