Kellie Jay on Talk Radio with James Max

[Mollyollydolly]

Worth a watch. How much do men hate women who say 'no'. When speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.

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@Datun

DH is a self confessed AGP. Which is when men get aroused by presenting as women. DH presents as a woman, wrote teaching guidelines saying tw should be called Miss and use women's toilets. And thinks that big breasts confer social cachet among women.

Talks the talk, doesn't walk the walk (in my opinion).

That isn't really an entirely accurate description of Blanchard's research on AGP, if people are going to use the categories defined by him, use them, but he doesn't say that men with AGP are all walking around dressed as women to get a sexual thrill. He says that AGP creates in some cases a sever body dysphoria that becomes manifest in daily life, and that's what he sees transitioning as alleviating for those individuals.

There's plenty of reason to think that there are now plenty of individuals out there who are straight up presenting as women in public for thrills, but that's not a description of the same psychological problem he thought medical transition could potentially help.

I've seen through twitter that James is gay. Which fits really. Makes a lot of sense.

@Rightsraptor

Baroness Nicholson has asked Max for an interview and Max seems to have agreed, according Twitter. That'll be good.

@rabbitwoman

I listened to the interview with Debbie.

She was really good. I have praised kellie to the rafters at the beginning of the thread and attribute a lot of her power to being gorgeous. And of course, Debbie is trans so someone like James would dare not suggest she might be transphobic or she may need to be cancelled for her views, would he?

I also like Debbie's no nonsense tone. You can tell she is a teacher.

But I understand kellie has no time for Debbie and really don't understand why.

I don't understand why people praise Hayton so much.

Is it not strange that Max was more polite to Hayton than he was to KJ Keen?

I also don't understand how many women here are so willing to use female pronouns for male people. This is all about language. "She" is an appropriate pronoun for KJ as she is a woman. Using "she" for a man gives the impression that a person believes a man can be female, but that doesn't make sense.

lovely if you use wrong pronouns on here you run the risk of being deleted. Personally, I just avoid using them.

The person wrongly living inside James Max must be cringing so hard right now. Maybe thats why he's lost his mind.

I know you do Arabella, but women here are generally very happy to use female pronouns for men, there was a recent thread where that was stated repeatedly.

I am so used to using sex-based pronouns that it jars every time I see or here gender-presenting-based use of pronouns.

No, lovelyweather, we are not a hive mind. We will get banned after 3 strikes. So we avoid deletions. Using male pronouns for a male AGP will risk us a deletion.

As Arabella said, she, I and many others personally will never use female pronouns for any male. But the moderation regime here makes us use convoluted language sometimes - or just to avoid commenting on threads where this is exceptionally difficult. The 'chilling' effect.

That isn't really an entirely accurate description of Blanchard's research on AGP, if people are going to use the categories defined by him, use them, but he doesn't say that men with AGP are all walking around dressed as women to get a sexual thrill.

He says that men with autogynephilia have a 'target location error', where they are in sexual thrall to the idea of themselves as a woman. AGP is a paraphilia. Well documented, and talked about by men who have it from one end of the Internet to the other.

Of course, Ray Blanchard is no feminist quite clearly has a certain amount of sympathy for men with AGP.

I, on the other hand, reserve my sympathy for their wives and families whose harrowing experiences can be read on Trans Widows Voices and Children of Transitioners.

Is it not strange that Max was more polite to Hayton than he was to KJ Keen?

Not at all. It makes perfect sense.

@lovelyweathertoday

I know you do Arabella, but women here are generally very happy to use female pronouns for men, there was a recent thread where that was stated repeatedly.

I am so used to using sex-based pronouns that it jars every time I see or here gender-presenting-based use of pronouns.

I think there's a big difference between women who say they will use sex based pronouns in person, and those who say they are happy doing so. It's socially very awkward, and in business, almost suicidal.

There's also a big difference between speaking to somebody and writing about somebody. The
pronouns are Rohypnol' article shows how ones perception changes when using the wrong pronouns.

@ArabellaScott

Is it not strange that Max was more polite to Hayton than he was to KJ Keen?

Not at all. It makes perfect sense.

Kellie came in for exactly the same treatment with James O'Brien, didn't she. The soft, caring voice for the transwoman who phoned up, and the dismissive irritation for her.

In fact, I seem to remember her asking whether he would allow his daughters into a mixed six changing room, and he said of course, why not. But when the transwoman said they didn't want to go into a male changing room he purred, no course you don't.

Putting the topic aside (although it has been joyful to eatch). Here is anotther glaring example of a thick as pig shit, mediocre man able to make a six figure salary and be on TV/radio as well.

His arguments are so embarrassingly bad, but he gives them steeped in the authority that can only come from male privilege, i dont think he feels the need to question himself at all. He can pontificate all he likes, becuase he is a man. No woman would even remotely get away with this.

Not on twitter but had a look at the links and replies. Hilarious! Is he still at it this morning?

@BunnyBerries

Wow. Wow. Wow. Caller Ulrika to end of James Max's show 9.30-10.00 am slot absolutely NAILS IT

YOU GO WOMAN

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Thanks for the tip off @BunnyBerries I'd stopped listening to yesterday's episode after the Debbie interview. Ulrika was fantastic. 👏👏👏

So annoying the way James constantly fills gaps with "the conversations are so toxic" when HE and his ilk are the ones MAKING the conversations toxic!! He's still got no clue. 🙄

Ray Blanchard is no feminist quite clearly has a certain amount of sympathy for men with AGP.

I, on the other hand, reserve my sympathy for their wives and families whose harrowing experiences can be read on Trans Widows Voices and Children of Transitioners.

Blanchard is very non-judgmental about the men with AGP. Any blame floating about should be attached to women, if I recall his interviews correctly.

And, likewise, I'm past my endurance with the gap in basic empathy and sympathy for the trans widows and children of transitioners. I'd be startled if James O'Brien or Max had had the courtesy to do any substantial preparation by reading a research brief on them.

I'm still chuckling about this this morning.

'I've surprised myself how right I was' 🤣

@BunnyBerries

Wow. Wow. Wow. Caller Ulrika to end of James Max's show 9.30-10.00 am slot absolutely NAILS IT

YOU GO WOMAN

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Thanks for that BunnyBerries. Excellent stuff.

I loved Ulrika. Clearly absolutely distraught over what's happening to women, and yet doesn't waver once from her commenting.

I mean, she couldn't be clearer, could she? If any man could be a woman, the entire meaning of a woman disappears. And he hears those words, and still thinks that it's just a viewpoint.

In fact one of the things he says when she says it's gaslighting, is it's not gaslighting 'it's a difference of fact'.

(25 mins in to the 930 slot).

Facts are so passé.

I wish James Max would go back and listen to himself talking to Kellie and Ulrika and then listen to himself talking to Debbie Hayton.

If he thinks he's treating all these people as women, he is very much mistaken.

Alan Partridge without the parody.

His arguments are so embarrassingly bad, but he gives them steeped in the authority that can only come from male privilege, i dont think he feels the need to question himself at all. He can pontificate all he likes, becuase he is a man. No woman would even remotely get away with this.

Spot on.

Ulrika was superb, she did get a lot across in her call. The presenter just sounds more and more obnoxious the more he says. "Everyone under 35 will disagree with you" apparently Ulrika.

His conclusion: (paraphrased a bit)

"I DON'T agree with KJKM , and I've read JKR's essay I DON'T agree with all of it, and I've read what the Harry potter actors have all had to say. We just have different views, but I'm glad to be providing a platform for people to air their views even though I don't like your views"

Haaa! What do you want a special Scouts badge or something?

This is great.

Thanks for link

I think people like Max have some sort of fundamental prior investment in the concept of women having different brains to men. And it's that investment that causes them to react so weirdly to challenges to gender theory.

I've noticed this with other men that support gender theory. There's some sort of innate belief that women are acutely different psychologically and mentally to men, that they really do have "pink" brains.

So therefore, transgenderism fits perfectly with this existing belief. Said transwoman declares pink brain status, therefore sad transwoman must be an actual woman.

It seems as though these individuals believe on some level that two qualities denote type: biological sex and "brain expression" with "brain expression" being the most important in terms of civic society.

Now I would argue "pink brain" beliefs are an acutely misogynistic sphere of reference, but asking why these men have these beliefs will probably get us closer to uncovering the murk that exists in their heads about the opposite sex.