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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kellie Jay on Talk Radio with James Max

442 replies

Mollyollydolly · 29/12/2021 12:32

Worth a watch. How much do men hate women who say 'no'. When speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Floisme · 29/12/2021 14:17

I'm sure there's someone out there who was born in my body. Was it one of you fuckers?

Appledrop · 29/12/2021 14:19

The comment 'men only golf clubs', just wow.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 29/12/2021 14:21

Same old ''but women commit those crimes too' bullshit.

These men give no fucks about the safety of females because they will always see us as less than them.
They will always prioritise other men over women as he clearly demonstrated here.

Full on male entitlement in full view.

PegasusReturns · 29/12/2021 14:22

He really is embarrassing himself!

Why don’t these men ever go away and reflect and come back with a “you know what, I was ill informed, I believed the hype and the headlines, but having read up I now accept I was wrong”

chilling19 · 29/12/2021 14:22

Patronising prick got his arse handed to him. Well done Kelly J - you kept your cool and kept on topic. 👏👏👏

chilling19 · 29/12/2021 14:31

Also from the Twitter feed:

'Max made my Dripping Condescension Meter max out and catch fire'.

😂😂😂😂

(h/t @HaroldOWessex)

GoatsAndBarley · 29/12/2021 14:31

Well done Kelly. A fabulous response to that stupid man. He should be ashamed of himself, the utter tool.

ArabellaScott · 29/12/2021 14:33

@Mollyollydolly

The thing I love about Kellie Jay is the power of saying 'No'. They just can't handle it. It's so powerful. No prevarication, just 'No'.
100%

Fantastic. Clarity, simplicity, calmly stating the bare facts.

Well done, Kellie Jay, such excellent demonstration of the simple arguments supporting the need for women's safety.

And Mr Max - thank you, too. What a gift to the cause.

ArabellaScott · 29/12/2021 14:33

@Floisme

I'm sure there's someone out there who was born in my body. Was it one of you fuckers?
Wait, can you feel it if I prod
Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 29/12/2021 14:34

Excellent interview from Kelly J, she is so well practiced at these sorts of questions now, he didn’t know what hit him.

TooWicked · 29/12/2021 14:34

That is up there as one of the most embarrassing interviews I’ve seen on this subject.

I’m actually cringing for James Max, he made himself look a complete tool.

Appledrop · 29/12/2021 14:34

Just reading the comments and one said "If Levi Belfield, Wayne Couzens or Peter Sutcliffe had id'd as a woman, you clearly would have opened the door and ushered them into female spaces". Says it all really. Shocking.

ArabellaScott · 29/12/2021 14:36

Gosh, that ratio is something to behold.

twitter.com/thejamesmax/status/1476133513703444485

Whatwouldscullydo · 29/12/2021 14:36

Love this..she barely even needed to say anything. He did all the work.for us himself.

What a transphobe too..wrong body is outdated amd transphobic

rabbitwoman · 29/12/2021 14:41

Firstly, I am so pleased to see how so many people are now commenting comfortably on these tweets. I don't think I would have seen such complete support of kellie not too long ago and it really shows how much the conversation is changing....

PronounssheRa · 29/12/2021 14:41

Just noticed James must be providing Christmas cover, he usually does the 5am slot and for very good reasons if this is anything to go by.

Accordingly to later tweets, James source of wisdom is the guy who played one of the Weasley brothers in the Harry Potter films. 🤣

rabbitwoman · 29/12/2021 14:45

My second post is quite controversial but I really hope it stays up because its a very interesting point I have noticed....

But let's face it, kellie is gorgeous. And the fact that kellie is so gorgeous is probably even more galling to these men because hey!! What else are gorgeous women for, if not for men to look at, if not to make men feel flattered by their attention. How dare she ruin that by being so strident, eloquent and intelligent? How dare she tease James so by being desirable but then rejecting him by not immediately agreeing with everything he says.....

Kellie highlights this stunning misogyny, I reckon, better than an old growler like me could. Same misogyny that says women can't be funny, or leaders, because as soon as they show strong personalities they stop being compliant sex objects.....

TooWicked · 29/12/2021 14:45

Some of the replies to his tweet though GrinGrinGrin

This reminds me of the time Prince Andrew thought his Maitlis interview went well. Egos are quite the drug.

Masdintle · 29/12/2021 14:49

I agree rabbit she is gorgeous. And they do get cross that she doesn't simper. I could watch her for a long time

TooWicked · 29/12/2021 14:54

I agree Rabbit she’s very Marylin-Esque which, in all the interviews I’ve watched her do, seems to add to men’s incredulity and outrage in a way that it doesn’t perhaps with some others.

I just fucking love the fact that she simply says “no” and doesn’t give even an inch. I’ll admit that made me quite uncomfortable when I was new to the whole subject, but now I can totally see and appreciate why.

Runningupthecurtains · 29/12/2021 14:54

@rabbitwoman

My second post is quite controversial but I really hope it stays up because its a very interesting point I have noticed....

But let's face it, kellie is gorgeous. And the fact that kellie is so gorgeous is probably even more galling to these men because hey!! What else are gorgeous women for, if not for men to look at, if not to make men feel flattered by their attention. How dare she ruin that by being so strident, eloquent and intelligent? How dare she tease James so by being desirable but then rejecting him by not immediately agreeing with everything he says.....

Kellie highlights this stunning misogyny, I reckon, better than an old growler like me could. Same misogyny that says women can't be funny, or leaders, because as soon as they show strong personalities they stop being compliant sex objects.....

Nah we all know that feminists are just ugly old women who hate men because they can't get one.
Floisme · 29/12/2021 14:56

I've not listened to this yet but I find it fascinating that she doesn't prefix her points with 'I'm sorry but....' (like I do) or try and soften what she says by smiling. It brings it home to be how conditioned I am to be pleasant.

Redshoeblueshoe · 29/12/2021 14:56

Well I've never heard of James Max - what a dick

EarthSight · 29/12/2021 15:03

He's one of a number of men who enjoy having a debate regardless of what's at stake for the person they're interviewing. The other person's distress is just good entertainment for them. They might even enjoy seeing women distressed, enjoy talking down to them as if they were primary school children and enjoy talking over them, and I've encountered his type before.

Men like him have been waiting for this moment for years - the time where they get to tell women how incredibly horrible and exclusionary they are (remarkably similar to incel accusations , all because they resent women sticking up for themselves and asserting their rights. They've never got over the fact that women ventured outside the kitchen and are determined to make this crucial moment for women's rights hurt as much as possible. They're loving the fact that outspoken women are outcasted whilst men like James get to score points with the left. It is a time of sweet revenge for them.

He's a very clear example of this, and it's incredibly revealing that he brings up the topic of single-sex spaces as if it's on par with women's single sex spaces.

James smugly thinks he has the upper hand over the simple women folk who don't seem to quite understand what's what, yet makes an absolute tool of himself. I'm glad this interview was recorded for everyone to see.

Honestly, I laughed out aloud at several points during it.

Whatthechicken · 29/12/2021 15:04

I’m sure many of us have met men like this in our working lives. They usually show up to work/board meetings full of their own arrogance, misogyny and very little of anything substantive. I had the pleasure of working with such a man. He did no prep for meetings, no research, never completed his actions from the previous meetings - he’d just try to belittle the work I’d done and then when he could see I was passionate about something - he’d tell me to ‘calm down’ in front of the board. When they can’t compete or match, they pick faults, they bully, they talk over, they insult. Fuckers always get found out in the end though. That presentation that blew everyone away in 1998 - can only be dined out on for so long.

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