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Well that's not very lady like

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whachatalkinaboutwillis · 22/12/2021 17:58

I was sent this link by my 91yo DGM with the above comment.
www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/19802592.northwich-woman-jailed-cocaine-fuelled-sex-dog/
Utterly repulsive. Would this be recorded as a female crime?

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nauticant · 22/12/2021 21:18

You know what's best about it whachatalkinaboutwillis? It's that it brings out the "no, this is right and is completely how things should be" crowd who to the majority look bonkers. Every one of these incidents pushes things slightly more in the direction of sanity.

I feel we've had a good month after a period of adverse winds.

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whachatalkinaboutwillis · 22/12/2021 21:19

@Cheshirewife is a troll or associate of the perpetrator, aren't they? No one thinks that's a woman. No one.

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rockinghorsebadge · 22/12/2021 21:20

Love the choice of photos used

rockinghorsebadge · 22/12/2021 21:20

[quote whachatalkinaboutwillis]@Cheshirewife is a troll or associate of the perpetrator, aren't they? No one thinks that's a woman. No one. [/quote]
Cheshirewife is being weird on the sister thread too

ScrollingLeaves · 22/12/2021 21:23

It says the perpetrator ‘had group sex with the Alsatian’.

Imo that should say the perpetrator took part in the gang rape of an Alsatian.

FannyCann · 22/12/2021 21:24

I hope the police have tracked down and prosecuted the other members if the group who abused the dog.

I didn't previously know that police would rock up to inspect the laptop of someone on the sex offenders register for life and do feel somewhat heartened that this is how the crime was uncovered.

rockinghorsebadge · 22/12/2021 21:24

@ScrollingLeaves

It says the perpetrator ‘had group sex with the Alsatian’.

Imo that should say the perpetrator took part in the gang rape of an Alsatian.

Rather glib, but pithy.

Cailleach1 · 22/12/2021 21:57

Poor dogs.

Two bits of info jump out.

The 60-year-old has twice been convicted of possessing indecent images of children,

and

Judge Everett told Goodier he did agree with the probation service assessing her as being a low risk of re-offending as he sent her to prison.

Does that mean that there isn't really too much worry about the perverted abuse of children and animals?

Mind you, the horrible person who did this may be put in prison where women are trapped and unable to get away from him. By design of lobby groups, the prison service and those promulgating that women be put at the mercy of such people. All the better to let him abuse another demographic.

ScrollingLeaves · 22/12/2021 21:59

“Judge Everett told Goodier he did agree with the probation service assessing her as being a low risk of re-offending as he sent her to prison.“

I think that it was meant to say, “ he did not agree”, otherwise the prison sentence would not make sense.

Athenajm80 · 22/12/2021 22:09

I posted on the other thread, but just wanted to say (and not trying to detract from the crime or be facetious) but the dog was doing the penetrating 🤢 so hopefully it won't have been as traumatic and damaging to the dog.

FannyCann · 22/12/2021 22:13

Oh. And the thread has been deleted.

Which is a shame as I was just reading advice for women who would like to report this to their MP and make the point about statistics gathered around sex offending will be inaccurate.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/12/2021 22:13

I see a thread's been deleted for too many posts "breaking talk guidelines".

Funny how angry outraged women and parents don't censor their speech when confronted by peadophiles.

RepentMotherfucker · 22/12/2021 22:14

[quote Cheshirewife]@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

Afraid she is now female. Clearly some safeguarding measures are required so probably a good thing the stats record this.[/quote]
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

FannyCann · 22/12/2021 22:14

The other nice thing about the DM article is that they don't really have to bother with pronouns. They simply refer to "The Pervert". Makes it so much simpler.

Whatisgoingdown · 22/12/2021 22:16

What an absolutely disgraceful shitshow this trans situation is turning into. It's 'people' like this that need to be called out for exactly what they are and stop trying to steal our identity.

RepentMotherfucker · 22/12/2021 22:16

MN said they wouldn't try to enforce pronouns for pedos didn't they?

So we can call him a man right?

Signalbox · 22/12/2021 22:19

[quote nauticant]I wonder for how long the lively sister thread will survive in Chat:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/a4433438-Woman-jailed-for-sex-with-dog[/quote]
Been deleted now.

Tabasco007 · 22/12/2021 22:19

@ScrollingLeaves

It says the perpetrator ‘had group sex with the Alsatian’.

Imo that should say the perpetrator took part in the gang rape of an Alsatian.

Yes, couldn't agree more. What a bunch of degenerates humans can be, mainly the male ones.

nauticant · 22/12/2021 22:22

As other people posted above about the thread in Chat:

Message from MNHQ: We do understand a lot of people wish to discuss this crime and it's ramifications but sadly we've had to remove this thread as there are too many posts which break our Talk Guidelines.

Let's not be too hard on MNHQ, there was discussion in Chat, the posters and lurkers involved will have been made very interested, they've now been silenced/blinkered, and they'll be wondering what's going on. MNHQ allowed sunlight before they drew the blinds. That's a win.

NotTerfNorCis · 22/12/2021 22:22

Afraid she is now female.

That's the nub of the problem. This person is not female, never will be female, and shouldn't be described as such.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/12/2021 22:23

@RepentMotherfucker

MN said they wouldn't try to enforce pronouns for pedos didn't they?

So we can call him a man right?

What about, for example, Karen White – is it ok to say he is a man and call him 'he'? We think we've allowed for flexibility and context here; we’re unlikely to delete where an individual is primarily known for extreme or criminal actions undertaken before they transitioned.

I'd be very surprised if the 'Karen white' clause didn't apply to this vile man who was previously known as John and convicted of child abuse images as a man in the past .

Signalbox · 22/12/2021 22:27

How long before this thread is pulled as well?

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 22/12/2021 22:30

@FannyCann

The other nice thing about the DM article is that they don't really have to bother with pronouns. They simply refer to "The Pervert". Makes it so much simpler.

This is a really good point and a straying point to address the fact that courts and prison officers are forcing victims and female inmates to use pronouns and names that they are not comfortable with when referring to transwomen sex offenders.

Shouldn’t lawyers be supporting their clients to refer to these attackers in terms that won’t get them into trouble nor add to their trauma? There should be clear advice as to how to do this.

Could the victims and other women refer to them solely as “the accused”, “the perpetrator” or their surname?

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whachatalkinaboutwillis · 22/12/2021 22:30

It's a horrific and absurd situation which deserves reflection....

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RepentMotherfucker · 22/12/2021 22:31

Don't know how much more 'extreme' your criminality would need to be than being a pedo dog fucker but we'll see won't we?

And if someone can correctly hyphenate 'pedo dog fucker' I'll be grateful, ta.

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