Harrop MPTS Thread 3

[BoreOfWhabylon]

For when the last one fills up

If the Panel's findings are as reported whereby it says Fitness to Practice is impaired rather than was impaired then surely the sanctions imposed have to reflect that and if they don't one would wonder why.

These bloody females who won't shut up about being harmed and deprived of services.....

It's just like section 28 y'know. I read it on another thread. Women's rights, the biggest threat on the planet. Probably causes global warming.

@BoreOfWhabylon

The usual suspects have gone very quiet about Harrop.

Joss has now switched to posting disgusting venom about a rape victim.

Classy as ever is Joss.

I am not surprised that they found impairment but I am relieved.

God. I don't normally get involved with the worst TRAs (I have Prior blocked fir my own sanity)....but I've never wanted to see someone taken down as much as I do with Prior.

Thanks for the updates, pleased to see the result.

Good stuff.

I see that tribunal tweets say the panel has retired to make a decision on sanction. I'd be surprised if that was the case.

I suspect they've retired to allow the parties to read the determination on impairment and decide on their submissions on sanction. Those will be heard at 13:30 and a decision made after that.

I may be wrong, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't the opportunity for each side to present more evidence if they wish, and to give their opinion on what the sanction should be.

The possible outcomes are:

1. No action
2. The sides to agree undertakings
3. Conditions for up to three years (@UncleTonyinahotpinkbrandbeanie that could include needing to get a psychiatric report although, as this isn't a health case, I think that's vanishingly unlikely)
4. Suspension for up to a year
5. Erasure

That's from this document: www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-documents/part-10---resource-for-doctors-medical-practitioners-tribunals_pdf-76539887.pdf?la=en&hash=C33C863ED52F62CB43D3C3DB4EB501AF22FBB8BD

The guidance the panel will be working to is at www.mpts-uk.org/doctors-and-representatives/hearing-resources?cf_chl_captcha_tk=ieG1v9XAkYeY8xBxXkhwNSGyudRbvF_zpbEfeF7kQr4-1638188522-0-gaNycGzNCGU

Prior was given the go well message from her i think

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Pleasantly pleased about the impaired ruling. I just hope he doesn't get the mildest slap in the wrist available.

Yes, but remember that although the tweets have been doing a brilliant job, it's not an official record. Wait and see.

Women's rights, the biggest threat on the planet. Probably causes global warming

and Brexit, the Covid pandemic, all wars, all poverty, lack of insulation in homes, hell everything really because Women's Rights are just so evil and threatening.

@RedDogsBeg

If the Panel's findings are as reported whereby it says Fitness to Practice is impaired rather than was impaired then surely the sanctions imposed have to reflect that and if they don't one would wonder why.

Rest easy. Impairment is by definition current.

(Misconduct is what happened then)

@littlbrowndog

Prior was given the go well message from her i think

Yes, it was MichaelMumsnet that delivered it.

I imagine it will be undertakings and conditions, though it might come close to interfering with his Article 10 rights.

Thank you again @Motorina - you’ve earned yourself a nice bobble hat and a golf club! Hope Santa brings you some lovely pink frillies.

Oh, glad you're here Motorina!

Well I’m shocked as RMW was on twitter yesterday saying all the charges against Harrop had been dismissed

Thanks, as always Motorina your insight and willingness to share it is invaluable.

Really eyeballs? Got a link please?

Just posted by Tribunal Tweets re Fitness To Practice

www.gmc-uk.org/-/media/documents/DC4591_The_meaning_of_fitness_to_practise_25416562.pdf

@UncleTonyinahotpinkbrandbeanie it can't be undertakings and conditions. The first is a voluntary agreement, the second is imposed.

It's just one thing off that list, not a combination.

It's unlikely to be either, to be honest. There's a good rule of thumb that it's easy to address clinical failings with conditions (go and do training in blah, only do blah under supervision) but really hard to address failings of insight with conditions. For conditions to work, the registrant has to realise they have screwed up and be prepared to work to put it right.

As someone said on a previous page, Harrop's a long way off that station on the remediation journey.

I think the lowest likely outcome is suspension, and I would be astonished if it were not reviewed. I do query if the Vice article might tip it over into erasure territory. I think that's unlikely, but I don't think it's impossible

Ha!

twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1465069748841070597?s=20

@BoreOfWhabylon

Ha!

Doesn’t RMW have a legal background. How have they come to that conclusion?