Harrop MPTS Thread 3

[BoreOfWhabylon]

For when the last one fills up

RMW is a barrister. Fond of offering unsolicited legal advice here.

Bore. You should post that on the thread RMW was on the other day with some blistering insights into safeguarding (the one about the school residential trip).

@BoreOfWhabylon

RMW is a barrister. Fond of offering unsolicited legal advice here.

Really? I've overlooked her contributions!

I was wondering on the other thread as well… Is there any professional standards for solicitors offering legal advice under their own name? Do they have any accountability?

Wrote the book on trans law, dontcha know. It may have been mentioned by RMW a few thousand times.

RMW presents their version of the law through a strongly skewed ideological filter. I wouldn't like someone with that approach to be my legal counsel, whether or not I agreed with the ideology.

@Doubletoilandtrouble

I was wondering on the other thread as well… Is there any professional standards for solicitors offering legal advice under their own name? Do they have any accountability?

Here:

www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/for-the-public/reporting-concerns.html

[quote Awkwardy]twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1465069748841070597?s=20[/quote]
RMW, as accurate as ever with their knowledge, advice and opinions.

I think the lowest likely outcome is suspension, and I would be astonished if it were not reviewed. I do query if the Vice article might tip it over into erasure territory. I think that's unlikely, but I don't think it's impossible.

Whilst erasure is going to be unlikely, it would be ironic if it was the Vice article that tipped the balance, given that Vice quoted him as saying:

"Ultimately, the tribunal will be deciding whether what I've done and what I've said deems me unfit for practice as a doctor. If that's the case, they could give me a warning, or a suspension. The worst thing that they can do is to strike someone off – effectively erasing them from the medical register – but I think the likelihood of that is virtually nil."

Just placemarking and saying thankyou for keeping us updated so far and for so expertly staying enough in lane to not get deleted but still giving clarity.

Awkwardy
twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1465069748841070597?s=20
RMW, as accurate as ever with their knowledge, advice and opinions.

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Sorry posted too soon - I was going to say that I tried to look but appear to be blocked.

Thanks @BreadInCaptivity - I promise I did try to find it - sorry to make work :)

No problem Person

@Motorina

Quick question please.

"I think the lowest likely outcome is suspension, and I would be astonished if it were not reviewed."

What do you mean by reviewed?

On the point that Harrop’s cheerleaders are remaining very quiet - perhaps, but only on their main accounts?

@Ekofisk

I think the lowest likely outcome is suspension, and I would be astonished if it were not reviewed. I do query if the Vice article might tip it over into erasure territory. I think that's unlikely, but I don't think it's impossible.

Whilst erasure is going to be unlikely, it would be ironic if it was the Vice article that tipped the balance, given that Vice quoted him as saying:

"Ultimately, the tribunal will be deciding whether what I've done and what I've said deems me unfit for practice as a doctor. If that's the case, they could give me a warning, or a suspension. The worst thing that they can do is to strike someone off – effectively erasing them from the medical register – but I think the likelihood of that is virtually nil."

Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke

@BreadInCaptivity assume he's suspended for 6 months. At approximately the 5 month point there will be a new hearing.

At that point he will have to convince the panel he has addressed any issues and is fit to return to unrestricted practice. The persuasive burden rests with him to prove he is fit, and not with the GMC to prove that he is not.

That panel can choose whether to lift the suspension, suspend him for a further period, or replace the suspension with conditions. (With some regulators that panel can also chose to erase him, but I don't know if the MPTS panel has that available or not.)

It's not 'six months suspension and then it's over'. It's 'six months suspension and then we'll reassess'.

That's assuming they a. suspend and b. order a review, which is clearly an unknown at this point.

@EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn

Awkwardy *twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1465069748841070597?s=20* RMW, as accurate as ever with their knowledge, advice and opinions.

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Anyone else might blush but I see RMW was emboldened enough to return to FWR yesterday to deliver the usual reprimands and reproaches.

@BreadInCaptivity

Bore. You should post that on the thread RMW was on the other day with some blistering insights into safeguarding (the one about the school residential trip).

I didn't see that one Bread. Go ahead and post it. I'll certainly be saving it for future reference

Thanks Motorina.

I expect you were all grateful she deigned to drop in.

I'm also on RMWs block list. Funny how Robin has no problems coming on here to tell us that we're in the wrong

@Redshoeblueshoe

I'm also on RMWs block list. Funny how Robin has no problems coming on here to tell us that we're in the wrong

tbh, I've seen sufficient of RMWs posts here to have formed a view of whether or not I'd use a 'skip' button if MNHQ ever implemented one. Life is too short to waste on items of low value.

Thanks @BreadInCaptivity, I've read it all properly now I can see what you mean about how clearly it spells out there thinking. Amazing how generous they've been although you can see they've applied the absolute letter of the law, it feels he got away with a lot on technicalities!

Interesting that there are very senior medical people in the list of witnesses who have articulated their concern - referring him to this process was a matter of integrity for them. That has to hold some weight?!

Also really hard to understand how AH could possibly say he was unaware re guidance when his supervisor so clearly states he discussed it all with him.