Harrop MPTS Thread 3

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For when the last one fills up

GMC submit that AH was warned about his conduct, and specially provided with GMC social media guidance. For AH to continue to post, that would significantly undermine public confidence, if he were to return to practice.

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In terms of insight, it has only developed in the last six months. GMC submits he has a flippant approach to GMC hearings evidence by advice to a junior colleague about his hearing on twitter.

Checking in.

Re DE evidence - Patients ask for him - I don't know the demographics of the Brownlow locality but I expect he can turn on the charm with the elderly and of course any younger patients with gender dysphoria can expect an affirmative welcome. He was quick to tweet a compliment that a receptionist passed on to him from a patient he had just seen (think he was at a different practice then).
So there's no reason why she shouldn't give a positive report on him if she doesn't use Twitter.

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GMC says that AH lacks the insight to move forward. There is lack of remorse and lack of considering impact on others. Even DE states it was naive of him to speak to press so close to the tribunal. GMC state his insight is thus incomplete.

and her admission but the profession in a bad way. You get the impression (rightly or wrongly) they'd hold on to just about anyone.

GMC submits he has a flippant approach to GMC hearings evidence by advice to a junior colleague about his hearing on twitter.

I hope the paramedic who he patronised and pulled rank on with his friendly advice sees that.

Sorry DE's admission. Can't presume (out loud) if it is she/he/furry.

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Chair asking what is the GMC’s position on a medical practitioner tweeting anonymously? Chair says this is hypothetical but may be relevant to their decision.
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GMC’s position is that, it is the fact that AH identified himself as a doctor, [that we are here]. GMC states it’s not mandatory to be anonymous as a doctor.

I can't see how they can note his threatening and inappropriate actions and allow him to continue to practise.

I think his witness must be a secret Mumsnetter

Cheers!

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Chair is asking GP, if AH didn’t state he was a doctor, but just put ‘trans activist’, would there still be malice?

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To an extent yes, but a less obvious extent because there’s a removal of the doctors perspective.

Well indeed. What GP practice wants to be a GP down right now? None of them. General practice is in crisis. But ... what GP practice needs a liability on their hands?

Ohhh, the Panel get it all right. Look at the questions they are asking!

Thanks to all, have been following (lurking)

@ArabellaScott

I can't see how they can note his threatening and inappropriate actions and allow him to continue to practise.

It's not their decision. What we're listening to right now are the GMC submissions.

Think of the GMC as a combination of the police and the prosecution.

The decision will be made by the MPTS panel. Think of them like a combination of judge and jury.

The GMC submissions are inherently biased as they're arguing one side of the case only. Next will be the defence submissions, which will argue the other side.

Then the MPTS panel will decide.

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Over to Mr Powell (GP). GP says it’s remarkable and unfair that there hasn’t been an investigation into the GMC. GP saying this is supposed to be a fair investigation but… [he’s referring to article 6].
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GP is talking about the Vice article and it’s unfair this has been submitted. GP says AH apologised for his behaviour in the Vice article, and while it might be unwise, doctors are still allowed to talk to the press.The Adrian Harrop Tribunal
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Over to Mr Powell (GP). GP says it’s remarkable and unfair that there hasn’t been an investigation into the GMC. GP saying this is supposed to be a fair investigation but… [he’s referring to article 6].
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GP is talking about the Vice article and it’s unfair this has been submitted. GP says AH apologised for his behaviour in the Vice article, and while it might be unwise, doctors are still allowed to talk to the press.

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Tribunaltweets GMC says that AH lacks the insight to move forward. There is lack of remorse and lack of considering impact on others. Even DE states it was naive of him to speak to press so close to the tribunal. GMC state his insight is thus incomplete.

Naive is an understatement!

I think the panel are waking up to how Twitter works. I was quite worried at the start that they thought it was like emailing.

Unbelievable - GP thinks the Vice article is irrelevant.

Nah it shows his arrogance

His solicitor appears to now be trying the Kevin the Teenager defence - “urgh, it’s so unfair!”

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GP submissions are that AH has gained insight. GP says that insight is a continuing path that continues for a life time. In relation to Vice, there was an orchestrated approach by the complainants.
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It’s remarkable that AH is being described as blaze and flippant when the GMC has not investigated fully.
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In this GMC investigation, GP continues, it appears that the investigative process has not been independent, but has just been from the complainants perspective.

Thanks, Motorina.

The decision will be made by the MPTS panel. Think of them like a combination of judge and jury.

Yes, I can't see how the panel can hear all this and allow him to continue to practise.

It's all Mumsnet's fault? Interesting defence.

@Motorina GP is now summing up for the Defence, yes?

When will the decision be made?

In relation to Vice, there was an orchestrated approach by the complainants.

Actually, AH in a supreme act of irony may be blaming Twitter.