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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour member suspended for saying only women go through menopause

144 replies

poshme · 18/11/2021 16:44

Not sure if it's anywhere else, but according Guido Fawkes, a Labour member has been suspended for saying on Facebook that only women go through the menopause.

order-order.com/2021/11/18/labour-in-hot-flush-after-member-suspended-for-saying-only-women-experience-the-menopause/

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ChristinaXYZ · 18/11/2021 16:50

archive.md/HxS4N

bellinisurge · 18/11/2021 16:52

More shit

ChristinaXYZ · 18/11/2021 16:52

the actual twitter thread

twitter.com/gilbohouse/status/1461007802307072005

MackenCheese · 18/11/2021 16:58

Only women go through menopause. Medical fact. I don't see what the problem is.

Helias · 18/11/2021 17:08

If this is true, the person who made the decision to suspend the Labour member should themself be suspended for transphobia.

Every trans person knows that transition does not mean actually changing sex. Every decent, honest transwoman knows that it's not possible for a male-bodied person to experience or to speak from experience about menopause.

People who insist that men and AMAB trans or nonbinary people should be allowed to speak about their personal experience of menopause are blatant (and for the most part hateful) AWAs, not TRAs. And they are transphobes, setting trans people up to look like they are categorically delusional and anti-woman/misogynist. These people do not have the firsthand experience, and every single one (minus perhaps small children) knows it.

If UK Labour have (had) any connexion to its history of defending marginalised and expolited groups, it will (would) speak up for women now.

Topseyt · 18/11/2021 17:08

Are the Labour Party so desperate to suspend someone that they will now do it for simply stating a biological fact?

Utterly ridiculous. They should reverse the decision immediately and apologise publicly for being such a bunch of twats.

OvaHere · 18/11/2021 17:08

@MackenCheese

Only women go through menopause. Medical fact. I don't see what the problem is.
It doesn't matter that it's true. Making factual statements of biology marks you out as a gender non-believer and for that you must be purged from the party.

It's all about purity and religious heresy. We appear to have gone back to the dark ages.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 18/11/2021 17:12

This why they deserve zero votes.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/11/2021 17:15

You really can see why #nodebate was the mantra for so long? Every time they open their mouths out pours delusionary misogynistic drivel.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 18/11/2021 17:15

@Topseyt

Are the Labour Party so desperate to suspend someone that they will now do it for simply stating a biological fact?

Utterly ridiculous. They should reverse the decision immediately and apologise publicly for being such a bunch of twats.

Given that Starmer couldn't bring himself to agree that only women have a cervix on the tv recently, is it so surprising? Even the leader is not able to admit biological reality. What a cult....the Conservatives deserve to be in power for ever....
LizzieSiddal · 18/11/2021 17:19

As the persons GC beliefs are protected in Law, they would have a good case for taking legal action.

foxgoosefinch · 18/11/2021 17:19

Aaaand pop goes any chance of me rejoining as a member or even voting Labour.

Keir Starmer has been an utter, utter disappointment on this (not the only area where he’s a disappointment tbh); and despite never having in my life voted for any other party for 25 years I can’t bring myself to vote for them again. Specifically over this issue. Never thought I’d see the day, but hey, it not the only bit of the world that’s gone mad.

Redshoeblueshoe · 18/11/2021 17:22

I'd love to know who is the Tory mole hiding deep within the Labour party. They are bloody successful.

FlyingOink · 18/11/2021 17:24

Looks real to me. Is anyone in Labour denying it yet?

Labour member suspended for saying only women go through menopause
DogDaysNeverEnd · 18/11/2021 17:28

Do trans men experience menopause, or does it happen artificially if someone is taking testosterone?

FlyingOink · 18/11/2021 17:30

@DogDaysNeverEnd

Do trans men experience menopause, or does it happen artificially if someone is taking testosterone?
Sometimes very early menopause if hysterectomy and oophorectomy is carried out because of atrophy.
Datun · 18/11/2021 17:36

You can't be sanctioned at work for holding a legally protected belief.

EngTech · 18/11/2021 17:38

Always thought George Orwell’s 1984 was a warning, not a blueprint

Shades of the Thought Police come to mind here 😳

Leafstamp · 18/11/2021 17:43

It doesn't matter that it's true. Making factual statements of biology marks you out as a gender non-believer and for that you must be purged from the party.

It's all about purity and religious heresy. We appear to have gone back to the dark ages.

I really do think we have @OvaHere

Dark Ages and 1984 combined.

I'm lost for words.

DraigFach · 18/11/2021 17:50

A concession can be made that non-binary folk and transmen can also experience menopause but I'd bet money that's not the audience Gil House has offended with their "only women" comment.

Another reason to keep a decent distance from Labour as a voter for the foreseeable.

DraigFach · 18/11/2021 17:52

@DogDaysNeverEnd

Do trans men experience menopause, or does it happen artificially if someone is taking testosterone?
Eventually transmen will experience menopause even if they don't opt for medical intervention with their transition...because at some point the mechanics of their biology will halt like any women's will at the time their body deems right.
KittenKong · 18/11/2021 18:04

I saw this on twitter too. Didn’t realised he’d been suspended!

Why the hell they can’t say - ‘women go through the menopause. Even if they refer to themselves in other terms’ I do not know.

RobotValkyrie · 18/11/2021 18:55

@DogDaysNeverEnd

Do trans men experience menopause, or does it happen artificially if someone is taking testosterone?
"Trans men" are women (= adult human females) so it doesn't really matter, does it?

... but yeah, they would go through some weird changes if/when their female hormones get switched off. Taking male hormones on top would alleviate some symptoms, but not all. You can't change sex, but you can mess up your body by trying to do so.

When it comes to biology/medicine, made up social categories and gender feelings aren't particularly relevant. The only definition of man/woman that makes sense in that context is the male/female sex binary.

HerewardTheWoke · 18/11/2021 19:05

At work last month there was a message on the front page of our intranet about Menopause Day - without any mention whatsoever of the words 'woman' or 'female'.

Apparently 51% of the population are affected by it, but who exactly is a complete mystery!

I joke but I was genuinely upset to see an example of this in real life for the first time. How dare my employer treat 'woman' and 'female' as dirty words.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/11/2021 19:05

Labour is finished. Absolutely finished. We have one of the worst governments in history and even at the end of a horrendous fortnight for the Tories Labour is only edging ahead in the polls.

Britain Elects poll tracker — first Labour lead since November 2020

Lab: 36.6%
Con: 36.5%
LDem: 9.2%
Grn: 6.8%