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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour member suspended for saying only women go through menopause

144 replies

poshme · 18/11/2021 16:44

Not sure if it's anywhere else, but according Guido Fawkes, a Labour member has been suspended for saying on Facebook that only women go through the menopause.

order-order.com/2021/11/18/labour-in-hot-flush-after-member-suspended-for-saying-only-women-experience-the-menopause/

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foxgoosefinch · 18/11/2021 19:09

I honestly cannot see why they don’t change course, Gaspode. They must either have people polling for them telling them it’s disastrous and they’re ignoring it; or (I suspect) they’re not even asking the right questions. From his cervix bollocks I suspect that Starmer has been captured on this, but it’s utterly, utterly disastrous as a party policy, and any leader with any skill at all would be trying to reverse course as fast as possible. Talk about echo chambers Sad

AnyFucker · 18/11/2021 19:11

Labour will never get back in power while they have that wet lettuce leading them

ErrolTheDragon · 18/11/2021 19:14

Someone is indulging in "conduct prejudicial and/or grossly detrimental to the party" in this incident, but it's not Mr House.

ChristinaXYZ · 18/11/2021 19:23

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SickAndTiredAgain · 18/11/2021 19:24

What a cult....the Conservatives deserve to be in power for ever

Whatever labour do, it doesn’t make that corrupt collection of bastards we currently have any more deserving of power. The most they can ever aspire to be is slightly less undeserving.

RepentMotherfucker · 18/11/2021 19:31

If this doesn't make it into the Daily Mail I am going to complain to Ofcom that they are not carrying out their remit of finding stupid things the left has done in order to make their readers shout, 'This Is Insane!' over their cornflakes.

C'mon DM, let's be having you!

Franklin12 · 18/11/2021 19:36

Labour are deluded and a waste of space.

TheMenopausalMrsHouse · 18/11/2021 20:05

This is my husband. He has been a committed member of his Labour Party branch, a lot of his spare time has been spent working for the local party, and he was campaigning for a neighbouring council by-election right up to the moment he opened that email. This is as much about branch politics as anything, and I am very glad that it is blowing up in their faces. Recent health problems encouraged him to decided to resign rather than fight the suspension and he felt that even if he fought it, he has lost his trust in the other members of his branch who reported him rather than respect a difference of opinion. If you challenge a suspension, you are not supposed to talk about the reasons behind the suspension, and, he felt that this was something that needed to be talked about.

He says he is simultaneously euphoric at getting this off his chest, and heartbroken that his party has betrayed him.

EdgeOfACoin · 18/11/2021 20:24

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

This is my husband. He has been a committed member of his Labour Party branch, a lot of his spare time has been spent working for the local party, and he was campaigning for a neighbouring council by-election right up to the moment he opened that email. This is as much about branch politics as anything, and I am very glad that it is blowing up in their faces. Recent health problems encouraged him to decided to resign rather than fight the suspension and he felt that even if he fought it, he has lost his trust in the other members of his branch who reported him rather than respect a difference of opinion. If you challenge a suspension, you are not supposed to talk about the reasons behind the suspension, and, he felt that this was something that needed to be talked about.

He says he is simultaneously euphoric at getting this off his chest, and heartbroken that his party has betrayed him.

I am glad your husband spoke up. I hope he is able to find support elsewhere in the Party.

Like PPs, I hope the press get hold of this and publicise this madness far and wide.

TheWeeDonkey · 18/11/2021 20:25

@DogDaysNeverEnd

Do trans men experience menopause, or does it happen artificially if someone is taking testosterone?
I had a hysterectomy a few years back but kept my ovaries so didn't go through menopause at the time. However, after a while of 'inactivity' they do start to shut down. I went through early menopause not long after and I was warned this was pretty standard.

Also, cross sex hormones can cause some transmen to need hysterectomy as it can cause atrophy. So yes they will experience menopause, probably earlier than if they hadn't transitioned. I think Buck Angel has been very outspoken about then need for transmen to be made aware of this as part of their transition treatment.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 18/11/2021 20:26

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

This is my husband. He has been a committed member of his Labour Party branch, a lot of his spare time has been spent working for the local party, and he was campaigning for a neighbouring council by-election right up to the moment he opened that email. This is as much about branch politics as anything, and I am very glad that it is blowing up in their faces. Recent health problems encouraged him to decided to resign rather than fight the suspension and he felt that even if he fought it, he has lost his trust in the other members of his branch who reported him rather than respect a difference of opinion. If you challenge a suspension, you are not supposed to talk about the reasons behind the suspension, and, he felt that this was something that needed to be talked about.

He says he is simultaneously euphoric at getting this off his chest, and heartbroken that his party has betrayed him.

Kudos to your husband. I resigned when Corbyn was elected. I'm a bit of a convert to 'freedom of speech/sex based rights' these days.
dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 18/11/2021 20:28

For clarification I have always believed in sex based rights. So disappointed that all left and centre parties in the UK have swallowed this gender identity ideology nonsense.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 18/11/2021 20:30

Labour cannot ignore 51% population forever but looks like they are happy to prolong things and be in eternal opposition.

borntobequiet · 18/11/2021 20:38

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse
Well done to him but how awful for him (and you). I hope he finds something worthwhile and fulfilling to do and that his health improves or at least stays stable Flowers

Abitofalark · 18/11/2021 20:57

@RepentMotherfucker

If this doesn't make it into the Daily Mail I am going to complain to Ofcom that they are not carrying out their remit of finding stupid things the left has done in order to make their readers shout, 'This Is Insane!' over their cornflakes.

C'mon DM, let's be having you!

I'm not waiting for the cornflakes but shouting out 'Insane bunch of twits!' when I see the pompous Draft Charge sheet with its three very unremarkable statements of everyday observation.

Craziness gone mad! Excuse me while I head over to the Daily Mail without further delay.

flygirl1983 · 18/11/2021 21:01

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

This is my husband. He has been a committed member of his Labour Party branch, a lot of his spare time has been spent working for the local party, and he was campaigning for a neighbouring council by-election right up to the moment he opened that email. This is as much about branch politics as anything, and I am very glad that it is blowing up in their faces. Recent health problems encouraged him to decided to resign rather than fight the suspension and he felt that even if he fought it, he has lost his trust in the other members of his branch who reported him rather than respect a difference of opinion. If you challenge a suspension, you are not supposed to talk about the reasons behind the suspension, and, he felt that this was something that needed to be talked about.

He says he is simultaneously euphoric at getting this off his chest, and heartbroken that his party has betrayed him.

Please tell him that women thousands of miles away appreciate what he's done.
MichelleScarn · 18/11/2021 21:08

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

This is my husband. He has been a committed member of his Labour Party branch, a lot of his spare time has been spent working for the local party, and he was campaigning for a neighbouring council by-election right up to the moment he opened that email. This is as much about branch politics as anything, and I am very glad that it is blowing up in their faces. Recent health problems encouraged him to decided to resign rather than fight the suspension and he felt that even if he fought it, he has lost his trust in the other members of his branch who reported him rather than respect a difference of opinion. If you challenge a suspension, you are not supposed to talk about the reasons behind the suspension, and, he felt that this was something that needed to be talked about.

He says he is simultaneously euphoric at getting this off his chest, and heartbroken that his party has betrayed him.

Thank him from the many women I know. What can we do to help?
MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/11/2021 21:14

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

This is my husband. He has been a committed member of his Labour Party branch, a lot of his spare time has been spent working for the local party, and he was campaigning for a neighbouring council by-election right up to the moment he opened that email. This is as much about branch politics as anything, and I am very glad that it is blowing up in their faces. Recent health problems encouraged him to decided to resign rather than fight the suspension and he felt that even if he fought it, he has lost his trust in the other members of his branch who reported him rather than respect a difference of opinion. If you challenge a suspension, you are not supposed to talk about the reasons behind the suspension, and, he felt that this was something that needed to be talked about.

He says he is simultaneously euphoric at getting this off his chest, and heartbroken that his party has betrayed him.

Another one thanking your husband for exposing this toxic, anti-women bullying ideology at the heart of the Labour Party. Like so many, I'm desperate to be shot of this appalling government but with science denial and misogyny running amok, my vote will have to go elsewhere.
TheMenopausalMrsHouse · 18/11/2021 21:31

We live close to Rosie Duffield's constituency, and he has always supported her. I think that seeing how she is treated by the party (and there is a lot of vitriol aimed her way in the local branch), reinforced everything I had been saying to him about Labour (I've been a very unsupportive political wife, I'm afraid). He started seeing how blatant the misogyny is, he became very vocal in his support of Rosie. He can't believe that someone reported his post, or that it was taken seriously enough to suspend him. I'm less surprised.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 18/11/2021 21:37

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

We live close to Rosie Duffield's constituency, and he has always supported her. I think that seeing how she is treated by the party (and there is a lot of vitriol aimed her way in the local branch), reinforced everything I had been saying to him about Labour (I've been a very unsupportive political wife, I'm afraid). He started seeing how blatant the misogyny is, he became very vocal in his support of Rosie. He can't believe that someone reported his post, or that it was taken seriously enough to suspend him. I'm less surprised.
Once you see it, you can't unsee it and then you wonder how you can trust people who fell for it ever again.
canyoutoleratethis · 18/11/2021 22:00

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse another woman here wanting to thank your husband. What he did matters

But what’s happened to the Labour Party genuinely breaks my heart, and it’ll see the Tories in power for decades to come

Fukuraptor · 18/11/2021 22:28

I'm so sorry that they've done this. I'm still trying to figure out whether there is a prospect of changing things by staying and voting for GC voices in internal elections or whether it's too far gone and I ought to quit.

The absence of an alternative party to vote for is probably what is causing me not to jump at the moment.

Plenty of members feel as you both do. Thank him for standing up for his values and exposing this.

LittlePearl · 18/11/2021 22:56

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

This is my husband. He has been a committed member of his Labour Party branch, a lot of his spare time has been spent working for the local party, and he was campaigning for a neighbouring council by-election right up to the moment he opened that email. This is as much about branch politics as anything, and I am very glad that it is blowing up in their faces. Recent health problems encouraged him to decided to resign rather than fight the suspension and he felt that even if he fought it, he has lost his trust in the other members of his branch who reported him rather than respect a difference of opinion. If you challenge a suspension, you are not supposed to talk about the reasons behind the suspension, and, he felt that this was something that needed to be talked about.

He says he is simultaneously euphoric at getting this off his chest, and heartbroken that his party has betrayed him.

Please thank him for me.
Igneo · 18/11/2021 23:09

www.nhs.uk/conditions/male-menopause/

I’m sure this is not what is being referred to, but just wanted to mention ‘male menopause’. Not impressed with the NHS using it as a title for a condition and then saying that it is unhelpfully referred to as that in the media. Well, hell what would they suggest? Is andropause correct?

ArabellaScott · 18/11/2021 23:10

I find the continuing decline of the opposition frightening.

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