[quote YearsSinceISawYou]@BloodinGutters
Yes, your impression is probably correct but why does that even need talking about? Let them be. If a boy wants to play with Barbie or a girl play rugby, then just let them.
It doesn't need talking about. The words "gender ideology" never need to be mentioned and I believe, in this climate, does more harm than good.
I can say, hand on heart, that if a 13 year old came to me-as in the OP- and told me they were non-binary with demands of non-binary pronouns, I would totally ignore them.
Might they be unhappy? Maybe? But I would rather they were unhappy for a bit as a young teenager than be unhappy for the rest of their lives as an adult because I had encouraged them in something-probably a fad- which for many, can lead to mental health problems and a lifetime of misery.
There would be no doctor's appointments, no counselling, no getting on a treadmill which seems pretty difficult to get off and for what?
If they announced the same thing when they were over 18, I might have a different approach but at 13? 15? No. it is my job to discourage shit which they don't understand and which might only be exploited by others who won't care if my child's life is ruined by all this bollocks.
So, I might be wrong but gender, pro-nouns and all the rest of it is not up for discussion in my house with young teenagers who don't know their arse from their elbow.[/quote]
It needs talked about because sex role stereotypes are socially conditioned. There’s decades worth of social studies on the impact of socialisation of sex role stereotypes and how consistently all people reinforce those, even subconsciously. On top of all the kids tv, internet, books and so on socialising that boys should like certain things and boys other ones. And this is amplified by other kids at school reinforces the idea that sex determines which toys or colours and so on that kids should choose.
The op is merely saying that when one boy told the other that the doll was for girls she told them not to be such a muppet & that any kid can play with any toy. From what I can gather.
I’d also be telling my kids they can’t have puberty blockers as kids. We laugh about how the geldings aren’t trans mares and that girls can’t be boys & vice versa. But it isn’t necessarily that simple all the time. Both of my kids are already under camhs for adhd and autism. As it is they just get meds prescribed (first line treatment for Adhd) and wouldn’t have a hope in hell of accessing camhs anxiety support because their anxiety would stop them. Which I’m now grateful for. Because I’m willing to bet that kids already under camhs or kids who can take themselves of to the gp for a referral would get hcp responding with affirmation no matter the parents views.
But being that girls with autism are massively over represented in both kids referred to gids and in the detrans population I've been checking through schools policies very closely and have already told prospective secondary schools we’ll be emailing concerns and the literature shortly and following up formally if necessary. I think one of the biggest problems with this is that schools are pushing gender ideology, either unintentionally because they have no idea how to discuss it without breaching the d of e guidance, or intentionally because some staff want the rainbow brownie points and are happy to throw kids safeguarding out of the window. And most parents have zero idea until their kids come home with their brains warped. By which point it can be too late for some, especially the more vulnerable women ones like my girls.