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Women must resist arrest by any male police officer and demand the presence of a policewoman

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Turquoise11 · 30/09/2021 10:11

I've never posted on mumsnet before but I'm compelled to after reading reports of the kidnap, rape and murder of Sarah Everard.

Any woman who finds herself in a situation where she faces arrest by a male police officer must resist and obstruct that arrest at all costs. She must not face charges for doing either, since it is potentially dangerous for a woman to be taken away by a male police officer. We can no longer trust the police.

Rather, a woman must be able to demand that a policewoman be present before any arrest takes place. We can no longer assume that there is any rigour in the recruitment process involving male police officers.

Do you think I am being fair? After what happened to Sarah Everard, I think that resisting arrest and insisting a woman be present is essential to women's safety. See below for some recent cases involving the police.

Detective Inspector Neil Corbel was charged with 19 counts of voyeurism in the Greater London, Manchester and Brighton areas.

Wayne Couzens.

Deniz Jaffer and Jamie Lewis taking unofficial pictures of Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman after they were stabbed to death.

I’m sure there are more incidents where male police officers hold women in contempt and would harm them if they could.

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TimeToDateAgain · 03/10/2021 15:16

There were officers in court speaking up in defence of WC even after he'd pled guilty.

I would seriously question their judgment.

FlyingOink · 03/10/2021 20:07

@ItsRainingProstateOwners

Also worth remembering that there is a genderfluid (biologically male) officer in the Met. So if you ask for a female officer, it could be a male (if they are presenting as female that day). Said person has a male and female warrant card.
Two now, I think
Anotheruser02 · 04/10/2021 21:32

Said person has a male and female warrant card.

Fucking ridiculous.

Whatthechicken · 05/10/2021 08:50

@Anotheruser02

Said person has a male and female warrant card.

Fucking ridiculous.

I presume ‘gender fluid’ people wouldn’t legally change their name, as they would use the original identity when they are presenting as that gender. So, there is legally one person - but actually two names (for their other warrant card). Does the other identity have to be sworn in as an officer too? Would an arrest stand up in court if the second identity is not a legal entity?
Anotheruser02 · 05/10/2021 08:55

People don’t get two passports, two driving licences, a warrant is a prestigious ID it makes a mockery of it IMO.

ItsRainingProstateOwners · 05/10/2021 09:36

Does the other identity have to be sworn in as an officer too? Would an arrest stand up in court if the second identity is not a legal entity?

Good points, I don’t know. It’d be interesting if anyone challenged it legally.

a warrant is a prestigious ID it makes a mockery of it IMO.

Agreed.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 05/10/2021 09:45

I am aware of some companies thinking through the 'legal identity' issue even where they have granted 2 different ID badges etc. It's creating security anomalies as well as contract issues/timesheets and payroll problems.

1Endeavour2 · 05/10/2021 10:00

You're kidding? A met officer has both a male and a female ID card? We would be the laughing stock of the world except that many 'advanced' countries are similarly deluded.
Regarding Scottish police...Do not, do not trust a word they say. It really is the Mad Hatters Tea Party up there and women truly don't matter. Remember men in party drag have more rights than any women in Scotland.

PronounssheRa · 05/10/2021 10:23

@Anotheruser02

Said person has a male and female warrant card.

Fucking ridiculous.

Is this legal? A person can only have one legal name so this person has one warrant card in their actual identity and one in an assumed identity.
FlyingOink · 05/10/2021 19:37

@Anotheruser02

People don’t get two passports, two driving licences, a warrant is a prestigious ID it makes a mockery of it IMO.
You could have two passports if you had dual nationality. But these officers who have two warrant cards are just wasting everyone's time and money. And I'd be interested if the "wrong" name in a warrant card invalidated an arrest. I'm not sure they need the warrant card to perform an arrest.
NewlyGranny · 05/10/2021 20:36

Is there proof of the 2 warrant card gender fluid officer somewhere? That doesn't until confidence, if true.

We are policed by consent in this country and not by armed force and fear as in some - many - other states. If public consent is eroded, we are looking down the barrel of a gun.

Government needs to make this issue an absolute priority and get it right first time or they risk creating an ungovernable populace.

NewlyGranny · 05/10/2021 20:37

Instil, not until. Autocorrect dumbs down vocabulary. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Anotheruser02 · 05/10/2021 20:42

Isn't that about being a citizen of two countries though, you are never two people from one country. I mean I know you have a choice of travel documents, but it states you are a citizen of XXXX, issued by different states.

FlyingOink · 05/10/2021 21:27

@Anotheruser02

Isn't that about being a citizen of two countries though, you are never two people from one country. I mean I know you have a choice of travel documents, but it states you are a citizen of XXXX, issued by different states.
No I agree I was just pointing out that it was possible.

And yes, there was a news article about one Met officer, I have heard of another, and a previous poster mentioned one in West Yorkshire Police

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