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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Veronica Ivy (formerly Rachel McKinnon) on why it is right for trans olympians to compete

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ScreamingMeMe · 27/07/2021 20:59

I can't believe The Economist published this crap, but here you go:

www.economist.com/by-invitation/2021/07/27/veronica-ivy-on-why-it-is-right-for-trans-olympians-to-compete

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Enough4me · 30/07/2021 14:15

If I 'feel' or pretend to be male testosterone does not surge through my body. When males 'feel' like women the effects of testosterone do not disappear. This is the same for amateurs and professionals. There is no way of changing body cells to reverse what has happened only lumps to be stuck on or tissue altered to create an outer illusion (which TW usually do not even bother to do).

NiceGerbil · 31/07/2021 01:37

There's also the to me massive point that there are ??? from many reputable places and going on for a fair old while

Saying that the normal T range for men was set with limited studies/ types of men in the studies.

And that the levels that should be considered normal are much wider.

For personal reasons I suspect this is true.

And obviously the idea that T is the be all and end all is incredibly narrow and somewhat indicative of stereotypes and embedded ideas about what 'makes a man a man'.

I mean it's obviously just silly with the lower range being within normal and 3x higher than women but I mean. We all know that.

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