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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Frances Barber Under Attack From TRAs

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ScreamingMeMe · 18/07/2021 23:02

Looks like they are unhappy with her because she supports JK Rowling. Some little arsehole has contacted the theatre she is currently working at, to try and get her sacked.

She is not having it. Another strong, formidable woman.

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Datun · 20/07/2021 19:15

Just for the record, I couldn't care less if someone is the purist, kindest man in the universe, I still don't want him in my changing room.

BlueBlazerBlack · 20/07/2021 19:34

I would also like to know why the appeals for empathy and compassion are never directed towards TW, and only ever towards biological women.

For the record, I don't think a poster who claims no harm has been done to women because of self-ID, is arguing in good faith.

RedDogsBeg · 20/07/2021 19:43

@Datun

Just for the record, I couldn't care less if someone is the purist, kindest man in the universe, I still don't want him in my changing room.
Same here and by the same token it wouldn't enter the head of the purest, kindest man in the universe to access a female only changing room or toilet, why would it? They know damn well their presence would at the bare minimum cause discomfort to the women in there and they would never dream of doing that which leaves one to wonder at the mindset of those who do want to do that and are perfectly at ease with disregarding any feelings but their own.Confused
AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 20/07/2021 19:52

Well, this is the biggest problem.

Any male who can empathise and would never want to make a woman feel threatened, intimidated, scared or uncomfortable would not dream of entering women’s spaces.

It’s the males who feel their own feelings are more important. Their own fears are more important. Their own comfort is more important who want (DEMAND) to use these spaces. And these are the exact type of male we fear and want to avoid!

Datun · 20/07/2021 19:59

Exactly. A male demanding access to an all female space is already happy to violate boundaries. Exactly the sort of person you don't want in there.

dyslek · 20/07/2021 20:43

And yet again the 'right side of history' mob scarper when the JUST BE KIND argument runs out of road Hmm

dyslek · 20/07/2021 20:44

So here's a fun video while we're waiting for all the stats and facts that will put us straight.

LastSummerHere · 20/07/2021 21:03

it wouldn't enter the head of the purest, kindest man in the universe to access a female only changing room or toilet, why would it? They know damn well their presence would at the bare minimum cause discomfort to the women in there and they would never dream of doing that which leaves one to wonder at the mindset of those who do want to do that and are perfectly at ease with disregarding any feelings but their own.

My son is 17 and wears dresses, skirts...anything 'typically' seen as women's wear. He is nine stone soaking wet and with his long hair he often gets mistaken, for only a second, as a young woman. My husband and I have been very diligent with him - any hint from people that they think he is trans gets shot down immediately by us or, if it is said to him without us being present, was talked through at great length with him. He is also autistic. He knows and likes that he is a GNC male, despite all the sickening and rude comments he has faced in his life!! My husband and I take some credit for that.

Anyway to cut a long story short, he would NEVER enter women's spaces. He wouldn't dream of it. He is the man who crosses the damn street so he isn't walking behind women. His respect for women is part of him. If he has it they can all have it, but they don't.

RedDogsBeg · 20/07/2021 21:35

Your son sounds fabulous @LastSummerHere as do you and your husband.

Sorry to hear narrow minded individuals try to deem him trans and that he has been on the receiving end of sickening and rude comments from pathetic individuals. Kudos to him for being true to what he is - a GNC male.

His respect for women is part of him. If he has it they can all have it, but they don't.

So very true.

Megasausagehead · 20/07/2021 21:40

@LastSummerHere

it wouldn't enter the head of the purest, kindest man in the universe to access a female only changing room or toilet, why would it? They know damn well their presence would at the bare minimum cause discomfort to the women in there and they would never dream of doing that which leaves one to wonder at the mindset of those who do want to do that and are perfectly at ease with disregarding any feelings but their own.

My son is 17 and wears dresses, skirts...anything 'typically' seen as women's wear. He is nine stone soaking wet and with his long hair he often gets mistaken, for only a second, as a young woman. My husband and I have been very diligent with him - any hint from people that they think he is trans gets shot down immediately by us or, if it is said to him without us being present, was talked through at great length with him. He is also autistic. He knows and likes that he is a GNC male, despite all the sickening and rude comments he has faced in his life!! My husband and I take some credit for that.

Anyway to cut a long story short, he would NEVER enter women's spaces. He wouldn't dream of it. He is the man who crosses the damn street so he isn't walking behind women. His respect for women is part of him. If he has it they can all have it, but they don't.

I dated a man like this at uni. He was so down to earth. Why can't this be what the world fights for!
Dwrcegin · 20/07/2021 21:41

@FeckTheMagicDragon

You can actually find this guy on LinkedIn, including his job title and his involvement in the LGBTXYZ+ Diversity group. He brings his ‘whole self’ to work. But obviously doesn’t want women to do the same.
His "whole self"...?

I hope his whole self ends up in court.

Skybluepinkgiraffe · 20/07/2021 21:42

Your family sounds fabulous @LastSummerHere

LastSummerHere · 20/07/2021 21:48

@Skybluepinkgiraffe

Your family sounds fabulous *@LastSummerHere*

Thank you so much Sky - I have to credit the women on Mumsnet though...they steered me right!! I've been here for 11 years, on and off, absorbing everything yet never posting much, just looking and listening like Peter Purvis!!! This place made all the difference.

LastSummerHere · 20/07/2021 21:51

@Megasausagehead I wish I knew...what have men got to prove by doing this??? That they are mercenaries? Vicious and savage at times?? We know.😞🙄

Dwrcegin · 20/07/2021 21:57

The fact that 1300 male prisoners can self ID as women and be waiting to be transferred to a womens prison is shocking.

That many of them are sex offenders is terrifying, shows exactly why self ID should be scrapped.

PurpleHoodie · 21/07/2021 07:57

Definitely Dwrcegin.

Frances Barber is a Star

PumpkinSpiceWoman · 22/07/2021 17:23

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EishetChayil · 22/07/2021 17:49

@PumpkinSpiceWoman

Frances Barber, the racist? Could she be less likeable?

Here you go again.

Just what do you gain from this?

ArabellaScott · 22/07/2021 17:51

'likeable'. Hmm

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 22/07/2021 17:55

Just what do you gain from this

Fuck knows

midgemagneto · 22/07/2021 17:58

A chance to play in mud, build mud pies and throw mud ?

Which means you need lots of water to create the mud, which must be nice in this heat

LastSummerHere · 22/07/2021 18:00

@PumpkinSpiceWoman

Frances Barber, the racist? Could she be less likeable?

I'd take her over you.🤷‍♀️

FreeBritnee · 22/07/2021 18:45

🤭

BoreOfWhabylon · 22/07/2021 19:20

@PumpkinSpiceWoman

Frances Barber, the racist? Could she be less likeable?
God, you are tedious.

You bring absolutely nothing to these discussions, it's not worth anyone's while to engage with you.

LastSummerHere · 22/07/2021 20:06

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