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Bunbury's Thirteenth edition - unlucky for some.

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highame · 10/06/2021 19:04

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving. It seems appropriate to resurrect today

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul and attacks are increasing.

This is a continuation of Bunbury’s 9th Public Service Announcement but other Bunbury’s are available and I believe Bunbury’s Orchestra is still alive www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4238543-Does-Bunbury-have-an-orchestra

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well-worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.
If you feel your hackles rising, give yourself a break. After the Maya case we may find an escalation.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, the following strategy is suggested

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”
Bunbury’s is under attack so be on your guard - there be dragons looking for witches.
If you’re lurking, Bunbury was a fictitious person in the Importance of Being Earnest - whenever our hero wanted to get out of an unwanted social engagement he would claim to have to be visiting his sick relative Bunbury. Hence the rediscovery of hitherto unknown second wave feminist Germaine Bunbury, to indicate to posters that a thread may in fact constitute an unwelcome social occasion they might want to avoid (courtesy of FermatsTheorem)
Finally, TAAT (thread about a thread) will get the thread removed. Let’s see how long this one lasts.

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Olderbadger1 · 18/06/2021 19:06

Oh splendid Daisies - are you stuck with the woker than woke Welsh Government too? I can't believe their gullibility.

I'll get them in if you like...

Olderbadger1 · 18/06/2021 19:08

Just noticed the time of your post - so sorry, hope you haven't been stuck on your own at the bar all this time? Though, knowing the Bluestocking, there are generally some friendly what-the-fucking-fuckers in there ready for a rant.

highame · 18/06/2021 19:38

Has anyone noticed a bit of a slow down on the hostility? It might just be my imagination but I hope not. I hope the Maya case has caused a little pause for thought.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/06/2021 19:53

DaisiesandButtercups
Stonewall are self identified experts in PSHE. They have experience with anti bullying programmes but as a political lobby group have no qualifications or experience (let alone business) dealing with PSHE for all children. (you probably know all this).
Safe Schools Alliance have some excellent sample letters for parents wanting to challenge this in schools:
safeschoolsallianceuk.net/resources-2/letter-templates/

And yes highame - if you mean on here. This board is full of women speaking and listening to each other - such a pleasure to be here.

Have a good weekend everyone: Wine Brew

DaisiesandButtercups · 19/06/2021 00:10

Cheers Olderbadger1!

Thank you MrsOvertonsWindow. I am trying to find out more about the resources, it looks like they might be from 2015 before “the change of direction”. Or the new 5 year plan or whatever. Thank you for the link I will consider my options.

highame · 21/06/2021 14:29

Messing about trying to search and this one came up as 0 on either board?

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highame · 21/06/2021 14:30

But it's not on the other, so perhaps Feminism wont get trolled

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CardinalLolzy · 21/06/2021 17:07

This thread is on the S&G board.

GetTheeToTheGulag · 24/06/2021 08:05

I'm keeping Bunbury's advice in mind on twitter too. A man of no note seems overinvested in the pain associated with gynae procedures like having a coil fitted. I can't help wondering why. (A taat on Twitter is presumably in the rules).

Leafstamp · 24/06/2021 08:23

Well done GetThee

Btw, is the Bunbury bar open? Am in need of refreshment. And a plaster for my head where I’ve been banging it against a brick wall.

highame · 24/06/2021 08:55

We should open the Bluestocking again and give it a makeover for our new board yey. It's a bit early for the strong stuff but what about a bacon sandwich and a coffee?

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Leafstamp · 24/06/2021 08:56

Yes please!! Can I have brown sauce with it?

highame · 24/06/2021 08:56

We could also provide reading matter, would the Pink News suit Grin

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Leafstamp · 24/06/2021 09:03

Don’t even joke!

WarOnWoman · 24/06/2021 09:11

I was wondering about this thread and where it was.

Highgame I very much would like the Bluestocking open. Work was a respite from all the madness in the world but it's creeping into early years education too.

Need a break. Strong coffee.

Also, I had a thought about a thread for small questions for posters who want to make others aware of something or need answers but don't want to start a thread. So for example, a new study or can you point me to info about ... If a post generates interest and discussion, then a thread could be started. Just a thought.

Right, coffee please.

DaisiesandButtercups · 24/06/2021 09:16

The previous bluestocking thread reached its post limit.

highame · 24/06/2021 09:45

I think it just needs two posts to complete. Shall we finish it off? Anyone got a smart end post?

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highame · 24/06/2021 09:49

Ahh Cara finished it off, didn't see that.

Ok next question - anyone got a smart thread title?

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DaisiesandButtercups · 24/06/2021 10:05

I can’t find the most recent bluestocking even by searching, I must be going crazy.

I did find bluestocking threads going back as far as 2014 however, a fine vintage Grin

As for witty titles, nope I am all out of wit.

Bluestocking the next generation?

Bluestocking the rise of the Vipers after the schism of FWR?

Brave New Bluestocking for a Brave New Thread?

Bluestocking, the heretics assemble?

ErrolTheDragon · 24/06/2021 10:07

Bluestocking - drown your sorrows ?

ArabellaScott · 24/06/2021 10:17

Glad the pub's still here.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 24/06/2021 10:50

Bluestocking, the heretics assemble?

Yes, please - it's time for a refresh of the sign.

CardinalLolzy · 24/06/2021 10:50

Still Blue, Still Stocking: The Bluestocking remains open in 2021

Previous one was www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4056256-Facemasks-on-for-a-trip-to-the-Bluestocking

highame · 24/06/2021 12:54

what about The Heretics are assembling at the Bluestocking

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GetTheeToTheGulag · 24/06/2021 12:59

Love it @highame

I'm visualising a sign with a blue sticking with Heretic woven into the top bit.