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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Bateman, Co Chair of Green Party Women suspended for Querying Whether Transwomen are Female

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gardenbird48 · 16/03/2021 13:09

Emma Bateman
@EmmaBatemanGPW
On March 8th, International Women's Day, I was suspended from the Green Party following a complaint by 2 fellow GPW committee members

Because I queried whether trans women are female.
Green Party policy is that 'trans women are women'

Now we must agree that they are also female

I thought Emma had gone a bit quiet since the weekend where they voted down a motion to support sex based rights.

It turns out that Emma might have been forced to accept the language re. transwomen are women but queried whether they are actually female. They objected to that as well obviously.

I guess it was only a matter of time as Kathryn Bristow's stated focus from the start was to take down Emma (rather than actually do any for women).

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WarriorN · 22/03/2021 17:05

@flyingfoxkins

Good thoughtful stuff *@OhHolyJesus* - I was only going to add to my previous post that including a working class man from the north east (self declared) is probably bringing more to the diversity table than yet more people who wish to silence women.

Very good point

WarriorN · 22/03/2021 17:07

And THEN, I think, GENDER GP, ffs.

I'm mean, are they on glue??

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2021 18:00

Hold on a minute-

the defeated women's rights motion that tried to add sex to the other eight protected characteristics that the Green party does support (age, disability, gender reassignment, sexual orientation, race, maternity, religion/belief, marriage/civil partnership)

The Greens explicitly don't support women in their protected characteristics?!

WarriorN · 22/03/2021 18:08

Are they not upholding the EA then? Isn't that illegal?

SpringCrocus · 22/03/2021 18:15

@ArabellaScott @WarriorN
Yep that's EXACTLY what the GPEW is doing.
Hence why so many of us have left, or are poised to leave, or are withholding our services.

porridgecake · 22/03/2021 18:32

And the SNP.
No doubt the Labour Party and the Lib Dems will do exactly the same. They all prioritise gender identity/ self id over sex.
The Labour Party threw out Trevor Phillips...
Nothing they do now would surprise me.

WarriorN · 22/03/2021 18:34

The new Lib Dem's women's group mentions sex in the libdem preamble.

WarriorN · 22/03/2021 18:35

Fuck knows about the WEP.

I mean. Jfc. HmmAngry

OhHolyJesus · 22/03/2021 18:39

Hold up, more from the Greens, this time from Sheffield.

www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/sheffield-councillor-alison-teal-faces-20230716

WarriorN · 22/03/2021 18:42

The comments Grin

WarriorN · 22/03/2021 18:50

(Beneath the article I mean.)

WarriorN · 22/03/2021 18:52

I think this is the tweet?

twitter.com/alisonclareteal/status/1373278180648312835?s=21

toffeebutterpopcorn · 22/03/2021 19:01

Is there something in the water in Sheffield?

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2021 19:03

Great to see more Greens members standing up and speaking sense.

I'm still totally astounded that the party openly refuse to acknowledge sex as a protected characteristic, though - it's so fucking blatant!!!!

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2021 19:06

Alison Teal, you are a breath of fresh air. Flowers

Toseland · 22/03/2021 19:52

Another Green Party voter here, now politically homeless.

It’s just occurred to me... surely the mantra should be this way round:
“Transmen are men
Transwomen are women...” !

MrsMidClegs · 22/03/2021 20:03

Alison Teal - well done for sticking to your guns. You and Emma are the Rosie Duffields of the Green Party and we all need to get behind you and support you. 💐

I don't at this point care whether you're Green or Labour, I will support those women who are trying from within parties to support those who are fighting for our sex-based rights.

newyearnewname123 · 22/03/2021 20:08

Which is why

Transwomen are women...

Always comes first.

TabbyStar · 22/03/2021 20:23

In the old days (!) it was always lesbian and gay to redress that balance, but that seems to have gone by the wayside.

MrsMidClegs · 22/03/2021 20:48

@OhHolyJesus

Hold up, more from the Greens, this time from Sheffield.

www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/sheffield-councillor-alison-teal-faces-20230716

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flyingfoxkins · 22/03/2021 22:10

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SunsetBeetch · 23/03/2021 10:16

Pleased to see she is not backing down. And to see the comments agreeing with her under the newspaper article.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 10:21

I'm sure this has probably been posted here, but I missed it, holy moly.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-green-party-s-growing-contempt-for-women-s-rights

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