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What's it really like for girls when one of their classmates is trans? A short film.

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Shizuku · 15/03/2021 18:02

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Doyoumind · 19/03/2021 12:54

Could you have imagined 10 years ago that we would be told to go to school for saying someone with a penis was male? Confused

StrangeLookingParasite · 19/03/2021 12:55

We know there is a biological component

No, we 'know' nothing of the sort.

That's why we have puberty blockers - they are literally a way of avoiding rushing.

No, they are almost always not, and this was proven in court.

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2021 12:55

What does a phantom penis have to do with girls rights to privacy?

OhHolyJesus · 19/03/2021 12:57

Imagine how you would have felt if you were the only girl in the school who was not allowed in the girl's toilets because people thought you didn't look right. Imagine the sense of shame and isolation.

Girls with 'anomalies' with their bodies as you call them aren't excluded from the girls toilets. No one cares what size or shape your genitals are in the toilet and girls don't spend time studying the bodies of their peers whilst getting changed for PE.

This is not what you are framing as the argument though. A trans girl is male but you are conflating this imaginary scenario with a girl who looks different and is therefore treated differently. All girls look different from each other, as do all boys, as do all men and all women.

You appear to be saying that separating children by their sex for the purposes of going to the toilet or changing for sport is 'exclusionary' and would be bringing shame and isolation to a male-bodied child by not allowing them to change with the girls. Or are you saying that all girls should look the same so there is no confusion about whether they are a girl?

It's clear in this imaginary scenario you are prioritising the feelings and desires of the male-bodies child over the girls. I'd like to say I wonder why that is but I don't need you to explain it any further.

2late2fixate · 19/03/2021 12:58

Trans girls aren't males. I'm afraid you're still stuck in the science-denying cult

We've reached peak insanity everyone. Thank god we only need 30 more posts to fill up this atrocious thread.

NecessaryScene1 · 19/03/2021 12:58

You appear to be saying that separating children by their sex for the purposes of going to the toilet or changing for sport is 'exclusionary'

Yet separating them by gender identity (meaning they will frequently find their different bodies a problem) is fine. Confused

Lordamighty · 19/03/2021 13:01

Make no mistake- you are in a science denying cult. It’s pretty sad to watch.

I am afraid that it is you that is a member of a science denying cult.
I don’t really care too much what others want to believe about themselves, in the same way that I don’t care too much about Scientology or other religious cults but I do care when those beliefs impact negatively on women’s rights. I care even more when those beliefs harm children.
So no I don’t find it sad to watch I find it unnerving, frightening & incomprehensible.
Human beings cannot change sex.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2021 13:02

However, it's not that posters here have never come across arguments before for trans rights. It's not that posters here have never met (or formed a friendship with) a transgender person.

It is that the posters here are not steeped in a world of Twitter and No Debate. There are flaws, inconsistencies and logical problems with the very core of transgender ideology. And it is affecting women's rights. This is what is under discussion. Drop-the-mic points which are effective on Twitter do not wash on here.

This, 100%

Doyoumind · 19/03/2021 13:04

I cannot understand how OP thinks humans procreate or what the purpose of having two sexes is. Talk about denying science Confused

Xanthangum · 19/03/2021 13:05

I am exhausted, and I'm just reading this thread.

My thought: is anyone else not worried that a straight, not-trans 15 year old boy might try just saying the words 'I am trans' in order to gain access to all-female spaces?

MarshaBradyo · 19/03/2021 13:06

Make no mistake - you are in a science-denying cult. It's pretty sad to watch.

You’re kidding right?

It’s fairly painful to read tbh.

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2021 13:07

Gosh I'm sure that would never happen, Xanthan.

OhHolyJesus · 19/03/2021 13:08

Trans girls aren't males.

So now we know that the OP doesn't even know what a 'trans girl' is, no wonder we have been labouring under a misapprehension (I've been mainly lurking, well done to all for sparing the time to respectfully engage.)

Thank god we only need 30 more posts to fill up this atrocious thread.

Is it time for recipes now? I'm so bored of our weekly meals I need some ideas...anything that isn't pasta...

EdgeOfACoin · 19/03/2021 13:08

@Xanthangum

I am exhausted, and I'm just reading this thread.

My thought: is anyone else not worried that a straight, not-trans 15 year old boy might try just saying the words 'I am trans' in order to gain access to all-female spaces?

OP, how would you prevent a scenario like this from occurring?
Doyoumind · 19/03/2021 13:09

I think OP is exhausted by all the well written, researched and robust responses - proven by them resorting to the science denial argument.

2late2fixate · 19/03/2021 13:09

Ten posts to go...

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2021 13:10

I don't know if one could go so far as to call it an argument.

ragtimeloves · 19/03/2021 13:11

@2late2fixate

Ten posts to go...
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Doyoumind · 19/03/2021 13:11

@ArabellaScott

I don't know if one could go so far as to call it an argument.
Grin
2late2fixate · 19/03/2021 13:11

Almost there...

See you later @Shizuku

EdgeOfACoin · 19/03/2021 13:12

I don't think any of my questions were answered Sad

They never are.

Awiltu · 19/03/2021 13:12

So much sunlight...

ragtimeloves · 19/03/2021 13:13

Looking forward to next thread.....

MrsWooster · 19/03/2021 13:13

£50 says female socialisation means we all shuffle about not wanting to displace another woman to Final Post, and someone else slips in..!!

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