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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners

999 replies

SophocIestheFox · 13/02/2021 21:08

Old thread nearly full!

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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Beamur · 21/02/2021 13:42
Grin
DialSquare · 21/02/2021 13:51

I checked last nights posting by opening a reply and selecting @ then the first letter of the name concerned and it brought up two names in the thread. If the differences are not obvious, select them individually and backspace to delete the space. It will show up the true name in either black directly above or in the bar below.

picklemewalnuts · 21/02/2021 13:55

@ErroITheDragon

@ErrolTheDragon

Oh my!

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/02/2021 13:57

@Beamur

If a regular poster suddenly goes off piste we should simply report to MN to check its not a spoof
You can C&P the username and do an Advanced Search. If it's the real poster, all their previous posts should come up. A spoof name won't have the same posting history.
picklemewalnuts · 21/02/2021 13:58

Sorry to take your names in vain, Errols! adjust checking out Dialsquare's advice!

To be fair, whether we notice a change of character or not it's still giving bad actors an opportunity for a scurrilous screen shot!

CompliantIndividualSignalling · 21/02/2021 13:59

@ErrolTheDragon

l bIame the font designers, personalIy.

I agree. I've always thought it fucking stupid that the word "ill" becomes "Ill" when you capitalise the first letter..

GCAcademic · 21/02/2021 14:01

The second ErroltheDragon disappears as soon as you type either the l or the I.

Excellent tip!

DialSquare · 21/02/2021 14:02

First screen shows the two names looking identical.

Second screen shows the correct name in the bar below.

Third screen shows the correct name in black above.

Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners
Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners
Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners
ErrolTheDragon · 21/02/2021 14:14

I don't see the bubble in the last picture ... it appears to show one variant I completely forgot about. ConfusedGrin

DialSquare · 21/02/2021 14:15

The double o?

DialSquare · 21/02/2021 14:22

It's a good way to check any suspicions immediately and as picklemewalnuts said, if you type out the regular poster's name, the imposter's will disappear at some point, showing exactly where the difference is.

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/02/2021 14:28

That's a good one!

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/02/2021 14:28

trolldaR

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/02/2021 14:30

I blame these newfangled sans-serif fonts for a lot of the trouble, you know.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/02/2021 14:31

The problem is that it might take a while to become suspicious. MN can see who it really is but it might take a while for someone to twig and raise the alert.

DialSquare · 21/02/2021 14:36

I can see what you are saying Errol but the type of troll on this board will not be able to help themselves by posting in their own character pretty quickly. The always do.

DeaconBoo · 21/02/2021 14:58

Tbh people are challenged on what they post whatever their username is. Hence sarcasm that you'd probably think is obvious being ... not so obvious sometimes Grin

CompliantIndividualSignalling · 21/02/2021 14:59

If the troll with the similar looking name attracts a deletion or even a strike then that will not impact on the genuine member? Only the troll account will be affected/deleted, surely?

Happy to be corrected, obvs...

MichelleofzeResistance · 21/02/2021 15:37

Just whatever. Play the silly tweenager games, fake whatever on Twatter, let the idiocy roll.

Nowt to do with me, I've got little enough time and energy and that gets focused on women's needs. And it all helps prove to my MP and others that if you're looking for sense, adults and logic, devoid of playground antics, talk to women.

MichelleofzeResistance · 21/02/2021 17:12

That was not addressed to any actual MNetters btw.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/02/2021 17:27

@CompliantIndividualSignalling

If the troll with the similar looking name attracts a deletion or even a strike then that will not impact on the genuine member? Only the troll account will be affected/deleted, surely?

Happy to be corrected, obvs...

Yes, of course. It'll be linked to the troll's email and account.
DaisiesandButtercups · 21/02/2021 18:10

S.O.B. Can be quite a powerful technique I think. For lurkers will also notice it and wonder.

picklemewalnuts · 21/02/2021 18:56

I've been deleted, twice,

on this thread.

And I have two strikes apparently.
I'll have to perform verbal gymnastics from here on in, too. And I was about to subscribe to premium to support MN too. I'll be thinking about that.

Sophoclesthefox · 21/02/2021 19:09

Careful pickle!

The previous Bunbury thread took from 2nd December to 13th February, so 10/11 weeks to fill up. This one was started a week ago and has hit 725 posts in that time.

Make of that what you will, but it’s quite a contrast.

Quokkas and otters are cute, and every feminist needs a good recipe every now and again, of course, but it’s quite an uptick.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/02/2021 19:18

We did have quite a long run-in with the various pinnipeds tbf