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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury’s Eighth- Sealion training for beginners

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SophocIestheFox · 13/02/2021 21:08

Old thread nearly full!

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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VioletAlder · 13/02/2021 22:44

Some octopuses also have 4 brains, I'm sure I read somewhere.

One to remember where each of their pairs of socks is, maybe.

BuntingEllacott · 13/02/2021 22:46

Are those the male octupii? The ones with more brains because they are very, very clever?

OvaHere · 13/02/2021 22:48

Are leg warmers part of the sock family? Can you call a leg warmer a sock with the absence of foot coverage?

NotFabulousDarling · 13/02/2021 22:52

Checking in! I'm starting to spot some sealions but I wouldn't know enough to have answers anyway. The totes looked amazing but even the 20 stickers had £5.50 shipping to Ireland so I'm on the lookout for anywhere more local doing them if anyone has knowledge of such things, or I might DIY my own.

Igmum · 13/02/2021 22:55

That is fascinating @nauticant, but don't you feel that identifying particular schemes in this way loses the bigger picture? The UK has struggled for a considerable time with being a comparatively low skill nation (there's certainly criticism of this going back to the Great Exhibition in the 1840s). Relatively high wages for low skilled work, a lack of tertiary organisations in the labour market, firms that compete on the basis of cost and see labour costs as something to be minimised and, of course, in recent decades ever changing national policy and training interventions.

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2021 22:57

Hello, pinnipeds. Nice to see you all looking shiny.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2021 22:58

Personally I really enjoy it when my fluffy toe warmers tell me how brilliant I am. It's very affirming.

My DP is a physicist so I bought him some socks with equations on for Xmas. They are very cute Smile and I guess validate his MSc, and I also bought him some grandad style tweed slippers, which are never off his feet. So lots of cosy footwear chez Eresh.

SophocIestheFox · 13/02/2021 23:00

@ArabellaScott

Hello, pinnipeds. Nice to see you all looking shiny.
Well there’s my new word for the day, thank you arabella Grin

Pinniped pinniped pinniped. Love it.

I may be here a while, I baked an orange drizzle cake and ate most of it this afternoon and I’m sugar buzzing 😭

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MaudTheInvincible · 13/02/2021 23:01

I got sheepskin-lined slippers for the first time this year. They're brilliant, and I love them ever so much.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2021 23:02

Ooh orange drizzle cake sounds amazing. Presume exactly the same as the lemon one but using orange juice and zest?

MaudTheInvincible · 13/02/2021 23:03

Had to look pinniped up. Love the things you learn on MN Grin

Winesalot · 13/02/2021 23:04

Well, I remember my child was told in Yr 6 by a young teacher that Penguins and seals were best of friends. Of course, they are not. In fact, leopard seals do horrid things to penguins!!!!

SophocIestheFox · 13/02/2021 23:04

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Ooh orange drizzle cake sounds amazing. Presume exactly the same as the lemon one but using orange juice and zest?
Yep, pretty much. Yummy but very sweet. Didn’t stop me from having five slices. No idea what happened Blush
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BuntingEllacott · 13/02/2021 23:06

But do you pronounce it pin-ni-ped all quick and cute, or is it pin-nipp'd which make me think of really cold days and needing to wear a vest?

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2021 23:09

Pinniped is one of my faves. Smile

And I pronounce it pin-ni-ped cute and quick;goes down like a greased eel. I'd wear a vest anyway.

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2021 23:10

Do not google leopard seals and penguins. Not at this time of night. Sad

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2021 23:11

In fact, leopard seals do horrid things to penguins!!!!

Let's not go there! Or ducks. Or dolphins, the bastards!

SophocIestheFox · 13/02/2021 23:12

Fucking hell, no! I’m still scarred from the last time.

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BuntingEllacott · 13/02/2021 23:14

I wear a vest atm anyway, but not because of being pinnip'd in the cold. In the warmer months, I give no shits, I'll have your eye out with them. But if i was a pinniped I'd have an extra layer anyway. Blubber, baby.

FireFartingDuck · 13/02/2021 23:17

God, didn't realise I still had this old dress lying around from the last time I had a ridiculous conversation about ducks.

MaudTheInvincible · 13/02/2021 23:17

Pinny ped I reckon, Bunting. Something feet?

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2021 23:19

[steals slice of orange drizzle cake]
[heads off in vest and bedsocks]

ErrolTheDragon · 13/02/2021 23:21

Let's not go there! Or ducks. Or dolphins, the bastards!

I seem to remember otters not all being naice either.
Ducks are fine. It's drakes that are Ignobel.

Winesalot · 13/02/2021 23:21

@ArabellaScott

Do not google leopard seals and penguins. Not at this time of night. Sad
I agree!!!!! Imagine my Yr 6 was going to search it. Because they knew from Australian school system that some seals ate penguins in their Antarctica lessons. So was going to check for themselves!! I quickly did a search and redirected the conversation and informed the teacher that perhaps they’d better do some checking themselves...

But not recommended viewing !!! Or reading. Or killer whales and seals. Don’t search that combo either.

TinselAngel · 13/02/2021 23:29

Oh I remember the Penguin thread! Wasn't it when we were waiting for Fair Cop to make one of their announcements?