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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

We're about to be investigated

189 replies

Imnobody4 · 01/11/2020 12:09

Call for Applications: Consultancy on UK Radical Anti-Gender Organizing | GATE
gate.ngo/anti-gender-uk-consultancy

The main goal of this consultancy is to increase international awareness on current challenges posed by radical anti-gender movements to trans people’s human rights in the United Kingdom. Its objectives include:

Mapping radical anti-gender movements in the UK.
Identifying key radical anti-gender approaches to trans issues in the UK.
Analyzing the real and potential impact of radical anti-gender organizing on trans people’s human rights in the UK.
Identifying key entry points for international solidarity.
Scope of Work and Deliverables
The consultant will:

Engage with GATE’s team on anti-gender organizing.
Produce an expert and accessible paper on radical anti-gender organizing against trans people in the UK.

Maya's thread on Twitter deals with funding of this org and it's origins.
twitter.com/MForstater/status/1322679833411944449?s=09

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OrtamLeevz · 01/11/2020 14:06

FFS. I'm sick of this shit.

fatblackcatspaw · 01/11/2020 14:07

too right @BaronessWrongCrowd... I have my eye on you

BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 01/11/2020 14:10

When they find out all the orgs are crowd funded by ordinary U.K. women (and a few men) will they actually publish that or just make shit up to keep their grift going?

DeaconBoo · 01/11/2020 14:11

What do we think they mean when they use the word "radical"?

I nearly posted the same thing.
I'm sure this will be the only word they haven't gotten around to defining in their research.

DeaconBoo · 01/11/2020 14:12

@PostItJoyWeek

What if I identify as indigenous?

I moved here as a young adult. I often feel quite English. I am probably better at Englishing than the English come to think of it. I look great in tweed. I have a UK passport. You think I qualify?

Well, as we all know, the hardest thing about being English is deciding what to wear.
PostItJoyWeek · 01/11/2020 14:14

Random oppression hierarchy on show.

We're about to be investigated
fatblackcatspaw · 01/11/2020 14:16

btw this is showing up in 'trending now' are we off the naughty step?

CaribouCarafe · 01/11/2020 14:16

@PostItJoyWeek

Random oppression hierarchy on show.
Lazily copied and pasted from an American context, clearly.
donquixotedelamancha · 01/11/2020 14:19

So they're interviewing the Celts, the Normans, Saxons. Pretty sure the vikings and possibly Romans could be included as well.

Of those listed only the Celts are indiginous, the rest are illegal imigrants.

I'm presuming they will be prioritising applications from very isolated (and ideally inbred) villages in North Wales, the Scottish highlands and Cornwall, which still practice traditional druidic human sacrifice.

Finally some justice for those bloody Saxons coming over here, taking our jobs and stealing our women with their flashy steel tools and sexy German accents.

And don't get me started on the Romans- what did they ever do for us?

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 01/11/2020 14:23

Cool, let them waste their time and resources hiring someone who self identifies as an expert to produce a report that self identifies as unbiased for the benefit of men who self identify as women. They can send it to our government who, if they're self identifying as competent on that particular day, can file it right away in their very special and important cabinet. I mean, it's actually a shredder, but it self identifies as a very special and important cabinet. Morons.

Beamur · 01/11/2020 14:23

If this is just a cut and paste from US equivalents they're going to find the concept of indigenous a bit tricky to apply here.
Don't they know that's a shade alt-right in concept here?

Igneococcus · 01/11/2020 14:26

"Finally some justice for those bloody Saxons coming over here, taking our jobs and stealing our women with their flashy steel tools and sexy German accents."

I have a sexy German accent but don't call me a Saxon, I'm a Frank.

ArabellaScott · 01/11/2020 14:26

I think if we are generous with the labels I could potentially hit 5 on the oppressed identity bingo card - are these qualities essential or just desirable?

Anyway, if you are an investigating witchpricker, I do so look forward to your vewy even handed and measured report in due course.

merrymouse · 01/11/2020 14:27

Of those listed only the Celts are indiginous

Johnny come latelies who only turned up after the last ice age due to lax entry regulations.

donquixotedelamancha · 01/11/2020 14:27

More seriously, I actually quite like that they got the anti-gender bit right. It seems a bit pathetic that they won't use Gender Critical, just because 'anti' sounds more negative, but it's better than thinking we are all evangelical Christians.

On the down side they sound more organised than the current UK lot. For all the money that Mermaids, Stonewall et al have they have never been interested in finding out why feminists object to their behaviour. They are good at lobbying and 'training' institutions but have been amaturish and slow to adjust their strategy in other respects.

I think this lot might be a bit smarter than just screaming 'no-debate' at everyone.

debwong · 01/11/2020 14:28

I will take time to educate myself on Pict matters and donate 20p to a pict charity

Make sure you choose fairly, I don't want to hear that you cherry-Pict the wrong one

ArabellaScott · 01/11/2020 14:29

The list of BNP supporters might be a good place to start if you really want indigenous UK people. Look out for the ones who've cleverly changed their names to sound more patriotic, though, that's my advice, witchprickers.

howonearthdidwegethere · 01/11/2020 14:30

Oh my goodness! They haven't learned anything, have they?

They really really need to bone up on the Streisand effect! They are going to generate a paper that brings together all the work being done by disparate GC women's groups, all of whom campaign openly (because, unlike them, we are rather fond of democracy). This will be so useful.

Having it all in one place, publicising it.

It's like PP paying for posters but then being refunded once Stonewall's fury chimps have demanded they are taken down. She is refunded and it generates oodles of column inches.

I'm going to send them lots of links to help them out.

PLEASE, GUYS! KEEP AT IT!

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Aesopfable · 01/11/2020 14:33

If sex work is work then why are they targeting sex workers and trying to persuade them to leave their occupation rather than other jobs? What particular skills do they thing this work would bring to this task? Or are they encouraging moonlighting?

merrymouse · 01/11/2020 14:33

For all the money that Mermaids, Stonewall et al have they have never been interested in finding out why feminists object to their behaviour.

I think Stonewall know why gender critical feminists object to their behaviour - it's not difficult to find out. It's just more convenient to pretend otherwise.

PostItJoyWeek · 01/11/2020 14:36

Why is deaf listed separately to disabled? Is it because the author wanted to show they know the D/deaf terminology for extra woke points?

AsTreesWalking · 01/11/2020 14:37

98% of my genes from the British Isles, plus a tiny bit Viking - is that indigenous enough? Do I pass the purity test?

FloralBunting · 01/11/2020 14:37

Delighted to stick my hand up as indigenous UK and anti-gender. I'll have it on a T-shirt, etsy tote bag and my tombstone, ta.

HecatesCats · 01/11/2020 14:38

How very flattering. They know we're onto something.

BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 01/11/2020 14:38

@Beamur

If this is just a cut and paste from US equivalents they're going to find the concept of indigenous a bit tricky to apply here. Don't they know that's a shade alt-right in concept here?
Someone should point out that they are ‘dog whistling’ to the far right (the actual far right, not their imagined far right that is anyone right of Vince Cable).