We're about to be investigated

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Call for Applications: Consultancy on UK Radical Anti-Gender Organizing | GATE
gate.ngo/anti-gender-uk-consultancy

The main goal of this consultancy is to increase international awareness on current challenges posed by radical anti-gender movements to trans people’s human rights in the United Kingdom. Its objectives include:

Mapping radical anti-gender movements in the UK.
Identifying key radical anti-gender approaches to trans issues in the UK.
Analyzing the real and potential impact of radical anti-gender organizing on trans people’s human rights in the UK.
Identifying key entry points for international solidarity.
Scope of Work and Deliverables
The consultant will:

Engage with GATE’s team on anti-gender organizing.
Produce an expert and accessible paper on radical anti-gender organizing against trans people in the UK.

Maya's thread on Twitter deals with funding of this org and it's origins.
twitter.com/MForstater/status/1322679833411944449?s=09

Heh.

I don't know why I'm so exercised about this.

But ok imagine i apply.
Which I would be welcome to do, being disabled and gender non conforming and whatnot.
Although tbh desk based research is not my thing as I focus more on co-generation of knowledge.
But say if i need the money.

'Produce an expert and accessible paper on radical anti-gender organizing against trans people in the UK.'
What if my desk-based research concludes that anti-gender organiSing benefits everyone.
Do I still get paid?

I like the idea of being investigated. I wonder if there's a badge or a t-shirt. If I don't get grilled by someone in a trilby and a raincoat, I'll be really miffed.

We have some indigenous I think, because I liked Stonehenge when I visited. Might apply

My Grandad had a Roman nose and lived in Northumberland, near The Wall.

Does that make me Latinx?

I mean are we talking Reindeer, or further back to woolly rhinos? There's dino footprints. Maybe they want an iguanodon?

I state my ethnicity as British Mongrel (deffo Roman, Anglo-Saxon and Viking in the mix. But my mother had a dodgy foreign maiden name - probably Dutch though ancestry research hadn't found the culprit so I'm not sure how diluted by the rest of the DNA that will be).

US cultural imperialism, innit?

'anti gender radicals' are impacting on transgender people's human rights.

unpack that (as you say) clearly stated conclusion reached ahead of the research.

There's no such thing as 'anti-gender', what they mean in essence is women defending their existing legal rights.

This is research into how women defending their existing legal rights are impacting on transgender people's human rights. By doing evil things like writing to the MPs, pointing out current law, participating in government consultations and pointing out facts, realities and issues for women, and raising public awareness of why removing sex based rights from women may make some males very happy but is really not appropriate or ok or inclusive or legal in terms of equality for all female people.

And since this is purely about female people getting in the way of male people, it isn't about transgender people's rights, it's about male rights.

This is in essence therefore, about how to find out about and stop women organising and standing up for their rights in ways that some male people are finding inconvenient.

@BaronessWrongCrowd

So they're interviewing the Celts, the Normans, Saxons. Pretty sure the vikings and possibly Romans could be included as well. I mean I'm not sure how far back they want to go as I'm positive that there were tribes predating the Celts. However, I'm pretty sure they all knew what a woman was

Great. Dh qualifies then. He is more likely to be one of these than a lot of people born here. And he has a British passport now.

Which I suppose does explain why Neanderthal DNA may be a plus.

A very short step from 'radical' to 'radicalised' is my guess.

FFS we really are living in a tinpot little totalitarian dictatorship.

Can’t feed people, can’t house people, sold off any thing in public ownership, next thing they’ll be selling off the farmland itself. But how dare we complain about any of that? You know the real problem? Bloody women protesting against sexism.

Have they even realised that anti-gender means against sexism, and being against anti-gender is to be openly in favour of sexism? How far I their linguistic tunnels can they go before they lose track of the whole concept of meaning, let alone specific instances of it?

Just when I think I can hold no more contempt for this disgusting country and its leaders they give me reason to find more.

It is about male rights and hopefully people are waking up to that.

Female isn't a costume is a simple as it needs to be. We are female and are affected by various innate biological factors and that is why women's rights were fought for.

Male right to wear female costume is their right/choice but not to tell females they know the lived experience of being affected daily by our own biology. We are not a costume.

Well in theory a celt Irish, but that pesky spanish armada came ashore when wrecked, raped and pillaged my ancestors villages hence my dark hair and blue eyes. So I guess that has stymied my application.

BTW the irish get very touchy at the insinuation that spanish/moor blood runs through their veins.

Can I identify as Woodwose?

@PostItJoyWeek 100% the witch hunt never stopped and seems to be ramping up again.

Indigenous? good luck. As a PP said, pretty sure most men and women knew what a woman was and what a man was back then and I would say most still do (even if they nicey nicey play along with the delusions of trans individuals re their gender).

'anti gender radicals' are impacting on transgender people's human rights.

At what stage did belief in biological sex become a radical idea, akin to believing Hitler had a point? I'm sick of being told I'm a radical. We have let these people claim a "moral" high ground they have consistently failed to back up with science, history or societal data. We need to re-position them back to the position of being radicals, because our position is the position that the vast majority believe, and which can be proven by a millennia of human existence.

I'm not surprised they don't want to hear from Asians. These are, by and large, the immigrant success story. They pay attention to their lessons, and end up working in scientific fields; they live within traditional familial set ups, and make the most of their New World opportunities. They are not naval gazers seeped in victimhood. They are not ripe for the picking.

next thing they’ll be selling off the farmland itself

That would be the inclosure act 1773

Joking aside, this is really scary.

Remember when suffragettes were not allowed to speak? A hundred years later, we really are being overwhelmed by a tidal wave of misogyny.

Wow, this is a thorough recruitment process. 5 days to evaluate applications, interview, presumably go through right to work in the U.K. checks, accept and start the new job.

Its objectives include:

Mapping radical anti-gender movements in the UK
assuming by anti-gender they mean pro women's rights, then I think most people here can help them out with that. I'll just need to check my bank statements tbh

Identifying key radical anti-gender approaches to trans issues in the UK
holding meetings where women talk to each other, writing to our MPs and funding legal challenges to institutional over-reach. radical eh?

Analyzing the real and potential impact of radical anti-gender organizing on trans people’s human rights in the UK
This is really going to depend on your definition of human rights. If it's 'be male in women's single sex spaces', then sad times lie ahead

Identifying key entry points for international solidarity
where can we spend our dollars to best crush the uppity women?

I am so indigenous that the only halloween costume I can wear without being accused of cultural appropriation is a morris dancer, or possibly a pearly queen

I can answer all the questions too, so I'm definitely applying

I am 3% Neanderthal according to my DNA analysis- does that count as ethnic?? Also a Viking sister at 12%. Does that count?? Can I be indigenous twice and have 2 goes? Love to know what indigenous means as the 'UK' is a recent development in really historical terms assuming they technically mean post ice age when the sea levels rose to form the geographical landmass they allude to! If so anything goes!

@MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes

FFS we really are living in a tinpot little totalitarian dictatorship.

Can’t feed people, can’t house people, sold off any thing in public ownership, next thing they’ll be selling off the farmland itself. But how dare we complain about any of that? You know the real problem? Bloody women protesting against sexism.

Have they even realised that anti-gender means against sexism, and being against anti-gender is to be openly in favour of sexism? How far I their linguistic tunnels can they go before they lose track of the whole concept of meaning, let alone specific instances of it?

Just when I think I can hold no more contempt for this disgusting country and its leaders they give me reason to find more.

I can't disagree, but my impression is this is US funded research, for some reason in the US' brave new feminist utopia they are really worried about why UK women are complaining about off-label drugs being given to children who don't conform to sex stereotypes, male rapists being housed in women's prisons, and all-women shortlists allowing males on them. [shrugs]

[cough] don't anyone mention cultural imperialism [cough].

Dear wonderful women of Mumsnet: Should we all jointly apply for this? Form a committee of some kind, I'm sure we can cover all bases mentioned? Or are we not allowed to break the 4th wall?

Witchprickers, beware - if you stare into the abyss for long enough ....

Ellen (she/her) is a Northern Irish trans human rights activist specializing in healthcare rights, accessibility, and international human rights mechanisms.

You'd think a Northern Irish activist would be a bit more reticent about the word "indigenous" and the dangers of tribalism.

DPs were from NI but mixed marriage (one of the reasons they went to England, where I was born), not sure if I'm "indigenous" to either island.

Don't know of any "Latinx" people. One of my friends has a Spanish Dad and is bilingual; does she count?

Healthcare rights for NI women have been in the press a lot lately. I don't think she means those rights though.

Also a Viking sister at 12%. Does that count??

Nah, Vikings are incomers.

One of my grandparents was a Cockney...

"Asian" to Americans means Chinese and Japanese though. Itt doesn't mean people from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh as it does in the UK.

Right, my woad is in place, and I've brushed my red hair out of my eyes- indigenous person here...