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Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

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DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 27/11/2020 07:47

I agree with Popper..

SunsetBeetch · 27/11/2020 08:20

@Kit19

I will not engage because the attention is exactly what they want
I need to take this approach.
DeaconBoo · 27/11/2020 09:43

If that's the best they've got then I'm happy to scroll on past. Kind of reassuring that bluster is all there is.

SophocIestheFox · 27/11/2020 11:12

I’ve been sucked in a couple of times recently. I’m on a lot of painkillers and they seem affect my filter 😬

Must.do.better!

MichelleofzeResistance · 27/11/2020 11:28

Sometimes it's hard to avoid, I agree. For some reason though lately, all I can think of is a poem by Michael Rosen that goes:

"Everyone stop what you're doing.
Everyone listen to me...."

I can't think why.

fatblackcatspaw · 27/11/2020 11:33

I think i might have to go and buy actual buns to distract me...

SunsetBeetch · 27/11/2020 11:40

I feel sorry for anyone who thinks twitter reflects real life. Just over 20% of the world's population use it; and people are increasingly sick of it due to all the woke cry-bullying and censorship. But yeah, bullying someone into submission on twitter is a huge victory and definitely a very grown-up thing to do Hmm

SunsetBeetch · 27/11/2020 11:44

And somebody seems to be losing their cool and showing their true colours. It must be disorientating, coming from a social media platform where people will roll over and do what you say,to a forum where people most emphatically will not.

Kit19 · 27/11/2020 11:46

the problem with twitter is that while most people dont use it, a large % of jounrnalists, academics, performers, policy wonks, politcians and charities do use it heavily which is why imo it has a disproprtionate impact to its size espeically in the era of lazy jounrnalism. so much on line news is now essentially quotes from twitter

HecatesCats · 27/11/2020 11:47

I see the dial has been turned up to 11 this morning.

SunsetBeetch · 27/11/2020 11:47

@Kit19

the problem with twitter is that while most people dont use it, a large % of jounrnalists, academics, performers, policy wonks, politcians and charities do use it heavily which is why imo it has a disproprtionate impact to its size espeically in the era of lazy jounrnalism. so much on line news is now essentially quotes from twitter
Yep. It's ridiculous given how unrepresentative it is. I look forward to the day when it collapses, which it will.
SunsetBeetch · 27/11/2020 15:13

Somebody stop me! I'm in a tetchy mood today.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/11/2020 15:17

SunsetBeetch,

Consider what o'clock it is! Consider the lilies of the field! Consider planning a picnic on the roof! Consider her ways!

Consider anything, only don't post.

SunsetBeetch · 27/11/2020 15:31
Grin

I'm going to watch something with subtitles. Can't type at the same time!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/11/2020 15:33

Or you could knit while reading stuff, which delays the impulse to post until the end of a bit of pattern or a row.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/11/2020 15:58

Just don't go posting 92 times in five days, it makes you look obsessive.

DaisiesandButtercups · 27/11/2020 16:01

@CatsCantCatchCriminals2

I agree with Popper..
Me too
DannyGlickWindowTapping · 27/11/2020 16:01

I had to step away before screaming "oh just fuck off!" at a certain poster. Interesting to see we're now being scolded for not being more prominently pro-bisexual. Anyone would think that just existing isn't good enough for women - we have to constantly be promoting some other group(s) to make up for the inadequacy of being a biological female. AngryAngry

DannyGlickWindowTapping · 27/11/2020 16:09

Sorry - I was so furious at that post that I read it wrong. I now realise that they may have been referencing an organisation, not the usual members of the FWR board. I'd still like a "block user" option, tho. 🙂

nauticant · 27/11/2020 16:11

The LOLing scolder makes my alarm bells ring. They revel in causing upset and I think that's their motivation for posting.

notyourhandmaid · 27/11/2020 16:11

@DannyGlickWindowTapping I hear you...

midgebabe · 27/11/2020 16:18

Is asking someone to fuck off a reportable offense then?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/11/2020 16:20

I think if you ask everso politely it would be ok midge

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/11/2020 16:20
SophocIestheFox · 27/11/2020 16:23

What, like “excuse me, sorry to trouble you, but could you please kindly FUCK RIGHT OFF please”.

That sort of polite, Rufus? Think that might work?

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