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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

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DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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SophocIestheFox · 23/11/2020 19:38

@ErrolTheDragon

Sometimes I have to remind myself that feminism is about centring women not straw men.
Important point, errol! Crikey, it’s hard sometimes round here though isn’t it?
MaudTheInvincible · 23/11/2020 19:52

@Escapeplanning

The lolling! Imbecilic.
Quite.
Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 24/11/2020 08:54

Has the thread about donating breast milk been deleted already? The monitors are up early.

Winesalot · 24/11/2020 09:03

It has. And I was just about to ask the poster who has said it is completely safe for comparative data. They have said this before on another recent thread so I was interested to see why.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 24/11/2020 09:10

I seem to recall the 'f' word we're not allowed to use was mentioned once or twice, so I thought it wouldn't last long.

gardenbird48 · 24/11/2020 09:44

I must say I am a bit relieved that it went - even the title made me feel queasy first thing in the morning (strange, there's not a little vomity icon - should we request one?)

littlbrowndog · 24/11/2020 09:45

🤮🤢

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 24/11/2020 09:52

@Escapeplanning

It's intended to stop women posting. Really compulsive behaviour.
It works to be honest

It puts me off posting

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 24/11/2020 09:54

@Wrongsideofhistorymyarse

Has the thread about donating breast milk been deleted already? The monitors are up early.
What was that then?
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 24/11/2020 09:54

Wait

If littledog is throwing up I probably don’t want to know

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 24/11/2020 09:55

Rufus apparently a TW was offering to donate breast milk. Someone asked if it was safe and was called all the obvious names.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 24/11/2020 09:56

😳

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/11/2020 09:58

What was the deletion message?

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 24/11/2020 10:07

I hadn't commented so didn't see the message.

SophocIestheFox · 24/11/2020 10:18

”We're taking this one down whilst we have a check behind the scenes”

SophocIestheFox · 24/11/2020 10:19

It was a massive “did they, aye?” to be honest, not at all surprised it went.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/11/2020 10:19

Oh OK. Suspected troll rather than nasty feminist pile-on. Thank you!

nauticant · 24/11/2020 11:21

We're not allowed the "f word" and we're not allowed the "g word". Since this removes from the discussion older male transwomen and children with a trans identity, essentially we're supposed to stay on the rails of pretending that "trans" relates solely to post-operative transsexuals or those heading in that direction.

This fits completely with the agenda of the 3 scolders who roam the boards aiming to bludgeon any discussion into the ground.

DialSquare · 24/11/2020 12:23

I've been sitting on my hands for days then finally post one comment and I've now got a strike. Back to sitting on hands.

midgebabe · 24/11/2020 12:25

You shouldn't need to sit on your hands...have cake in one and whiskey in the other ( feel free to change the sustenance to ones suited to your tastes)

SophocIestheFox · 24/11/2020 12:28

That sucks dialsquare Sad

DialSquare · 24/11/2020 12:28

I've currently got a biscuit in one so halfway there!

littlbrowndog · 24/11/2020 12:34

Am sitting on mines as well dial

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 24/11/2020 12:37

I know what the g word is but I'm having trouble with the f word. It can't be feminism or fuck I'd wager, so..

Any clues?

DialSquare · 24/11/2020 12:40

Oh well. I'll have to be even more careful in my wordings in future.