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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

999 replies

DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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nauticant · 24/11/2020 12:41

It's fetish.

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 24/11/2020 12:44

D'oh! (Obvs!)

While I'm here admitting to being very slow, could someone please tell me who the famous person is/was on the now defunct Costa thread?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/11/2020 12:51

I don't know either. Cryptic crosswords never were my thing.

TyroTerf · 24/11/2020 13:17

We're not allowed the f-word now? Alongside the three-letter-acronym and the other t-slur, it becomes increasingly clear that I'm being dreadfully bigoted in not accepting my ex as trans.

Which will annoy him rather, as he happily identifies as a slur with an f-word who nevertheless believes in the sanctity of single-sex provision.

HecatesCats · 24/11/2020 14:19

The current way to talk about A or F amongst a subset of people on a certain social media site is to suggest that the vast majority of women have the 'condition that must not be named', thus proving that they are also simply females who feel sexy being female.

TyroTerf · 24/11/2020 14:59

D'you know, I'm with them up to a point on that - it's not uncommon for women to fantasise about being a "super-sexy" person for onanistic purposes.

Kinda falls down though, on account of our fantasies of being someone else not actually determining our physical sex. And it's a shame we can't really ponder the phenomenon of female body-hatred causing us to dissociate from our own bodies while wanking, without males muscling in on the conversation.

TheChampagneGalop · 24/11/2020 15:04

Wait, we can't say that there are men who have a fetish for women's clothing?

TyroTerf · 24/11/2020 15:15

Well I've never been deleted for saying my ex has one. Different rules for people you've not actually shagged, I suppose.

And actually, the fact that some female humans also like to imagine the "sexy woman" stereotypes being applied to them, is actually pretty solid evidence that the trait isn't a foolproof indicator of one's sex. Cos it appears in both males and females. 0/10, TRAs; must try harder.

DeaconBoo · 24/11/2020 16:14

I thought f-words were something to celebrate and be proud of? Like Nobel Prizes?

SophocIestheFox · 24/11/2020 17:10

You know what I can get enough of in life?

Giant wall of text, ‘splaining what I should and should not expend my energies on.

Fucking Love It. Bigly.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 24/11/2020 17:23

@DeaconBoo

I thought f-words were something to celebrate and be proud of? Like Nobel Prizes?
It takes the fun away if we identify what's going on.
TyroTerf · 24/11/2020 17:31

Keir thread, Sophocles? Am basing this guess on the fact it's racing towards a thousand posts. Is it worth me getting the popcorn and having a dekko?

SophocIestheFox · 24/11/2020 17:35

Oh, couldn’t possible say, tyro, couldn’t possibly say 😬

TyroTerf · 24/11/2020 17:44

I did wonder how discussion of the Fence-Sitter in Chief could spark such a lengthy debate, but I see it wandered off topic very early on. Better get the bingo card as well as the popcorn.

midgebabe · 24/11/2020 17:46

House was called ages ago

midgebabe · 24/11/2020 17:48

Is there a prize for being the last poster?

ErrolTheDragon · 24/11/2020 19:34

Starfor Butterer Grin

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/11/2020 20:19

Heavens, is the bore still infesting and merailing the threads? How extraordinarily tedious.

HecatesCats · 25/11/2020 18:38

Well there's a surprise

Kit19 · 25/11/2020 18:42

God really?? 🤦🏻‍♀️

HecatesCats · 25/11/2020 18:45

Gone. One can only wonder at why.

terryleather · 25/11/2020 18:48

I was just in the middle of reading that and it went poooft....were we not being naice enough?

HecatesCats · 25/11/2020 18:49

I suspect scrutiny of important people who put their name on a public letter, published to the public, in a public publication, was inappropriate or something.

CaraDuneRedux · 25/11/2020 18:50

How fucking dare they?

One day. One fucking day of the year devoted to ending violence against women and girls.

And we're not allowed to draw attention to a bunch of virtue signalling luvvies with a ton of internalised misogyny making it all about people with penises.

Shame on you, MNHQ.

HecatesCats · 25/11/2020 18:53

People who don't want to attract scrutiny should perhaps not add their names to national publications containing falsehoods on a day of significance for women. It's bound to invite scrutiny. Removing the ability to scrutinise motivation is a step away from...