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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

999 replies

DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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Kit19 · 16/11/2020 21:46

So I can tell you why you’re all wrong & how men have it much harder

It’s not even original

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 16/11/2020 21:57

Won't somebody think of the poor menz?

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 16/11/2020 22:06

I’m personally thinking of the poor capital letters. Is it the MM in a new dress?

HecatesCats · 16/11/2020 22:21

There's always a friend or a relative isn't there

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 16/11/2020 22:46

Another AMA incoming. Because noone in this section could possibly have met any real transpeople. Or Indeed parent one.

Reported.

DeaconBoo · 16/11/2020 22:52

Something really doesn't ring true with some of the things tossed out in one of the OPs I'm reading.

littlbrowndog · 16/11/2020 22:55

Yep

littlbrowndog · 16/11/2020 22:56

There is an AMA. Section is should go there. This is fwr not AMA

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 16/11/2020 23:26

I can't even be bothered to ask why they're posting in this section.

Winesalot · 16/11/2020 23:35

Yeah. Strange to have two start within hours. wonderful that we are popular. Maybe some agriculturalists decided to visit on the back of the other thread sending traffic out to the country.

fatblackcatspaw · 17/11/2020 00:21

AMA? what does that stand for pm me if its a secret ,,,,,

testing987654321 · 17/11/2020 00:34

Ask me anything

fatblackcatspaw · 17/11/2020 00:37

ahhh,,, enlighenment

TyroTerf · 17/11/2020 08:08

Female poster discussing female child's trouble with sex role stereotypes sounds like it qualifies for FWR to me. Just a shame the most pertinent question isn't being answered. AMA format's a bit weird of a weird choice if you're going to avoid the million dollar question, whatever the topic.

MissAHannigan · 17/11/2020 08:15

I wish I'd come here yesterday insteading of allowing the long term merailer have my attention 🥺

fatblackcatspaw · 17/11/2020 11:05

so I got a strike for posting on that thread.. which now appears to be removed entirely.....

TyroTerf · 17/11/2020 11:08

The AMA is still up, it was just moved to that board.

fatblackcatspaw · 17/11/2020 11:12

ah ... not really the byzantine rules of mumsnet defeat me once more....

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 17/11/2020 11:53

Were being monitored closely. I've had two deletions this week and a strike.

fatblackcatspaw · 17/11/2020 12:06

FWR ? for wanker rolling?

fatblackcatspaw · 17/11/2020 12:06

can't work out if strike is a badge of honour or not... wanders off to find coffee

TyroTerf · 17/11/2020 12:08

Feminism & Women's Rights. Used to be the name of the board, name got streamlined but the acronym stuck.

fatblackcatspaw · 17/11/2020 12:09

ahhh...

Gncq · 17/11/2020 15:02

Oh holy Jeezus I came here after THAT AMA popped up in active threads. I knew you ladies would be on it, It's so obviously written by a TRA and has all the bingo cards layed out. I was so upset reading it. (Upset because these people will make anything up to draw in an audience, not because anything on the thread was upsetting).

nauticant · 17/11/2020 15:18

Using AMA threads is an interesting new tactic. These threads shouldn't be in FWR so when put up they make people suspicious and I assume the goal is that because it's "ask me anything" the intent is to trigger irritated people to ask questions that really push the boundaries and which, when presented elsewhere and particularly out of context, can be spun into a "they are evil, aren't they?" narrative.