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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

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DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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nauticant · 12/11/2020 19:39

I am annoyed about how Mumsnet is Evil™ material was generated by the AMA thread when the dynamic was a thread posted in the wrong place by a person from X community who seemed to know not much about X and who was up for a barney by throwing around identity politics hand grenades. No wonder it has an intemperate vibe which of course then gets interpreted as X-phobic.

Still, it is impressive how effective some basic game playing can be.

BlackWaveComing · 12/11/2020 19:43

Yes. I was peeved indeed that thread was not moved immediately from FWR to AMA.

HecatesCats · 12/11/2020 20:03

Still, it is impressive how effective some basic game playing can be.

Persons it seemed to me. Playing parts Hmm

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 12/11/2020 21:07

@CaraDuneRedux

Thanks all!

(Glad to see MNHQ are moving that thread to AMA.)

Oh thats good

I did whinge...

Cocothefirst · 13/11/2020 08:41

The poster has flounced.

HecatesCats · 13/11/2020 08:57

Maybe next time they'll try reading up on the subject

EyesOpening · 13/11/2020 22:42

Blimey, what happened to the miss NZ thread, it was all going so well, last I saw

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 13/11/2020 22:44

@EyesOpening

Blimey, what happened to the miss NZ thread, it was all going so well, last I saw
Seriously? Its gone?

Thats taking the piss that is

TyroTerf · 13/11/2020 22:45

It's gone? Last I looked, there seemed to be widespread agreement that if a male person wanted to win a feminine performance competition then that's fine and dandy. Did it turn ridiculous?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 13/11/2020 22:46

It was going well

Just about everyone was saying...

Crack on, have at it

Fucking ridiculous...and all the breaking talk guidelines bollocks, needs to be more specific

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 13/11/2020 22:47

And people were saying how pretty she was and how good it was that her family was on board

Did a bunch of goady twats who no one has ever heard of pop on and get it deleted?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 13/11/2020 22:48

Oh and the sam smith thread

His music is a bit whiney...thats a judgment call

TyroTerf · 13/11/2020 22:57

Presumably we were being too nice? Terven people can't be going around being nice, it's far too discombobulating. Here we are transgressing the boundary of our gendered "evil bigoted lesbian feminist witch devil people" box, and the thread gets pulled?

But I thought we're supposed to break out of our gender-boxes by blurring the edges? That's how the patriarchy smashes itself, right?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 13/11/2020 23:01

@TyroTerf

Presumably we were being too nice? Terven people can't be going around being nice, it's far too discombobulating. Here we are transgressing the boundary of our gendered "evil bigoted lesbian feminist witch devil people" box, and the thread gets pulled?

But I thought we're supposed to break out of our gender-boxes by blurring the edges? That's how the patriarchy smashes itself, right?

One assumes so

There was a poster stirring the last time i looked at it, but it was fairly obvious they were stirring

Well...I thought it was fairly obvious

Winesalot · 13/11/2020 23:08

Don’t worry about the Sam Smith thread, there seems to be at least 2 or 3 a week. Just wait for another day or two and viola, there’ll be another chance. ....

Escapeplanning · 13/11/2020 23:13

Do we ever get a holiday from the merailers that take up residence?

TyroTerf · 13/11/2020 23:19

Persistence is variable, and sometimes we get a break while another volunteer for the metaphorical baton is found.

Handy opportunity to practise one's sitting on own hands in the face of provocation skills, I suppose.

BlackWaveComing · 14/11/2020 04:01

@Escapeplanning

Do we ever get a holiday from the merailers that take up residence?
No.
CaraDuneRedux · 14/11/2020 20:18

Ah we have a shiny new never-seen-before poster with a bee in her bonnet about gender non conforming men. What is she hoping for in the way of responses? I think my response might be "hide thread."

fatblackcatspaw · 14/11/2020 20:59

@CaraDuneRedux

Ah we have a shiny new never-seen-before poster with a bee in her bonnet about gender non conforming men. What is she hoping for in the way of responses? I think my response might be "hide thread."
MEN IN SKIRTS? try and stop them ever coming to Scotland ENDEMIC here esp on high days holidays etc
fatblackcatspaw · 14/11/2020 21:00

friend has just told me about blackberry gin - on email - v jealous... shufflign towards bed The West Wing and a cup of tea

334bu · 14/11/2020 21:06

But a really good looking man in a kilt is a joy to behold.!!!!!!
Think I might have overindulgedWine Cheers!

TyroTerf · 14/11/2020 21:09

But the knees! Surely proper ladies wouldn't dream of looking at a man's actual knees in public?

TheChampagneGalop · 14/11/2020 21:12

Mmmm...knees...
that thread was clearly not started by a Scottish person!

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 16/11/2020 21:40

Ah, an old-timey 'tell me why we need feminism' thread..

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