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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

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DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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CaraDuneRedux · 03/10/2020 23:46

Aw, it's gone.

I was quite enjoying reminiscing about hangover cures of yore and the delights of a nice sharp cheddar on a plain chocolate digestive.

EyesOpening · 03/10/2020 23:53

It's getting late have you seen my mates
Ma tell me when the boys get here
It's elven o'clock and I want to plop
Want to get a belly full of beer

Oh, don't give us none of your aggravation
We had it with your discipline
Oh, Saturday night's alright for plopping
Get a little action in

DickKerrLadies · 04/10/2020 00:16

Ok I'm going to have to go listen to that song now Grin

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 04/10/2020 00:59

fatblackcatspaw - I prefer ginger to cinnamon in crumbles anyway. Ginger and sharp apples. And no coconut - I don’t dislike coconut, but it’s in everything, from crumble to toothpaste lately.

HecatesHat · 04/10/2020 12:40

Hi, can anyone see this post, my app timeline isn't updating and I posted a thread earlier that doesn't appear on the timeline when I look at the website on my laptop. Does anyone know why that might be? Thanks

BlackWaveComing · 04/10/2020 12:46

I can see your post Hecates

BlackWaveComing · 04/10/2020 12:48

But I can't see a new thread you started...

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 04/10/2020 13:06

I'm not one for reporting but I did report a couple of posts from last night's charming visitor. Email this morning from HQ saying they've banned him cracked me up: His parents must be so proud...

Delphinium20 · 07/10/2020 02:19

It's late at night for most MN, but I sense a shift in the thread about what authors of a genre say on their SM feeds. Hope I'm wrong.

Cocothefirst · 07/10/2020 10:39

Oh?

Kit19 · 07/10/2020 11:27

Would I be right in assuming a male presence on the loooong thread?

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 07/10/2020 12:13

You would, Kit. And a very persistent one, too.

Kit19 · 07/10/2020 12:15

I thought so. It’s pure attention seeking - the more they get, the more they persist

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 07/10/2020 12:26

It's educational for the lurkers, at least.

CaraDuneRedux · 07/10/2020 14:34

@TyroBurningDownTheCloset

It's educational for the lurkers, at least.
I'm finding the lack of self awareness mind blowing.
TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 07/10/2020 15:54

Same. But then, we've seen it all before, haven't we? FWR hashed out the content of that thread years ago, but it's always interesting to see the dynamics playing out.

Kit19 · 07/10/2020 15:59

i know im guilty too because i bit but I find it frustrating that a man is consuming so much energy on the feminism boards

the endless male entitlement

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 07/10/2020 16:08

Hear hear Kit19!

ArabellaScott · 07/10/2020 16:31

Some people really are very comfortable sitting telling women off. They really enjoy chastising women. I'm off for a bit of gardening, now.

Kit19 · 08/10/2020 14:42

i feel given how the courtcase is going there will be incoming

CaraDuneRedux · 08/10/2020 20:18

I fear you are right, Kit.

testing987654321 · 08/10/2020 20:25

Yeah, sorry I bit as well.

I've just noticed a combination of names on another thread who I remember from a while ago, I doubt two non-regular posters turning up together is a coincidence. Am going to sit on my hands and not bite this time though.

FannyCann · 09/10/2020 08:12

Something that makes me think of quicksand or earthquakes seems to be popping up trying to cause their own little mini emblem of discontent. I've noticed on two threads so far.

Pertella · 09/10/2020 08:17

Its a frequent flyer Fanny

InflamatoryWrit · 09/10/2020 13:37

MNHQ: generally we ask that posters don't 'chase off' others with opposing views - we'd prefer it if there was a civilised discussion even if there'll never be an agreement. This is true across the site btw

Posters simply cannot have a genuine discussion with some frequent flyers-- too much obfuscation, diversion, sea-lioning. Posters could be forgiven for losing the will to live. In these cases it can be wise to scroll on by. Come on people, let's just scroll on by. Do not reference, do not bite.