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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

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DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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ArabellaScott · 29/09/2020 07:24

Always in awe at Floral. Flowers

CaraDuneRedux · 29/09/2020 17:02

Incoming.

Your common-or-garden old school misogynists, trying to undermine an interesting thread.

Cocothefirst · 29/09/2020 19:04

Ooh and it's not even midnight!

Kit19 · 02/10/2020 12:20

I assume the monitors are back & the bat signal has gone out!

WooblyBoobly · 02/10/2020 12:55

Is somebody self isolating and bored? Honestly.

Kit19 · 02/10/2020 12:59

its interesting how the threads last week/earier in the week with all the receipts about a certain fishy organistaion's behaviour and Liz Truss reasserting the lines of the equality act were avoided like the plague

and yet now that's died down....

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 02/10/2020 13:05

I've been isolating myself for years and I'm frequently bored; now I'm paranoid because Bunbury is too cryptic. What's going on where?

fatblackcatspaw · 02/10/2020 13:13

If I put granola on top of an apple crumble instead of making crumble mix by hand am I singlehandedly allowing the erasure of the category of women?

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2020 13:19

People are going v righteous about adverts. Odd, when there are so many other things going on - Tavi concerns, DfE guidelines etc. This is what matters! Corporate virtue signalling! Time wasting and distraction I dare say. Thanks for the reminder.

Butterer · 02/10/2020 13:19

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ArabellaScott · 02/10/2020 13:20

I like a bit of coconut and other nuts mixed into crumble topping.

fatblackcatspaw · 02/10/2020 13:23

and if I add some cashews which are rumbling about the place....

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 02/10/2020 13:41

Totally missed that. I've been too busy translating wokeish and composing an email to DD's school, clearly.

fatblack your granola is singlehandedly making a mockery of all those women who understood that their womanhood was predicated on the laborious application of the Half Fat to Flour rule in all walks of life. For shame!

Winesalot · 02/10/2020 13:46

Half Fat to Flour rule There is crumble rule? Well, I never! So .... all the nuts I use must add to that 'fat' component too? They don't identify as fats like, you know butter, but they are....

SophocIestheFox · 02/10/2020 13:47

@ArabellaScott

People are going v righteous about adverts. Odd, when there are so many other things going on - Tavi concerns, DfE guidelines etc. This is what matters! Corporate virtue signalling! Time wasting and distraction I dare say. Thanks for the reminder.
Dammit, I’ve been sucked in! I usually resist, I just thought there was a broader point. Gah.
Winesalot · 02/10/2020 13:48

I think that it is a topic that they feel they can, in fact, still use the pointy finger of shame!

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 02/10/2020 13:53

No, I think the nuts fall under the general heading of Flour. It's a wet shit / dry shit ratio.

Caveat: my mother's attempts to teach me cookery were decidedly haphazard. Other highlights included precise measurements such as "some", "a bit", and "you know... enough".

highame · 02/10/2020 13:57

Tyro was taught to make Yorkshire Puds that way and they are fantastic when I get exactly the right "some" "a bit" "about" ratio

HecatesHat · 02/10/2020 14:09

I think that it is a topic that they feel they can, in fact, still use the pointy finger of shame!

On the back foot? No meaningful answers about the most important issues of the day on FWR? Don't worry, we've found just the solution!

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2020 14:14

The rule of wet shit to dry shit can be confusing, I know.

Germaine would advise staying calm and having a nice cup of tea with the crumble, I expect.

CaraDuneRedux · 02/10/2020 14:16

Yorkshire pud batter should be on the eggy side compared to pancake batter.

Pancakes: 1 egg to 50g flour to 100ml milk.

Yorks: 1 egg to 40g flour to 75ml milk (or milk/water).

Fat needs to be piping hot.

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2020 14:20

ALSO the language of ads - emotive, simplistic, feelgood, individualistic- is a language many people feel very comfortable with. It's got more feels than dry legislation or boring factual information. It's pretty and fascinating and fairly harmless. Politics-lite. Bears fuck all relation to real life and has little impact except on the profit margins of the corps. Raised on a diet of late capitalist schmaltz, this is the preferred register for some. I think.

Kit19 · 02/10/2020 14:36

its amazing as well how supportive people become of brands notorious for not paying taxes and treating their employees like shite as soon as they pop a rainbow on

highame · 02/10/2020 14:47

There ya go Clara messing everything up with your 75ml this and a 40g that.

Thinner than pancake batter