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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

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DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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Deliriumoftheendless · 26/09/2020 08:50

Maybe we all dreamed it and Bobby Ewing will step out of the shower again 🤣

Mammatino · 26/09/2020 09:15

Delirium you have started my Saturday off with a chortle, I shall bring you a bacon sandwich...if you are a veggie you can have bread. Brilliant. I could forgive almost anything if Bobbie Ewing stepped out of the shower.

persistentwoman · 26/09/2020 18:43

A quick Saturday evening bump - if only to remind myself..... Blush

JellyFishSquish · 26/09/2020 19:00

I just don't understand. What is the plan? Because it does not seem to be in good faith. Okay okay-- it is not in good faith (twisting or re-framing easily verifiable facts, derailing thread bada-bada)

Do they get paid by the post? By the word? That is some investment they have in this if it is on their own time. Flippin' heck. They do seem to have taken a break for a kip, however. Raring to go on a Saturday night though. Wahoo... I guess.

Deliriumoftheendless · 26/09/2020 19:31

@Mammatino

Delirium you have started my Saturday off with a chortle, I shall bring you a bacon sandwich...if you are a veggie you can have bread. Brilliant. I could forgive almost anything if Bobbie Ewing stepped out of the shower.
Thank you- I am vegetarian but veggie bacon is fine by me 😂
MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 26/09/2020 21:21

Maybe the plan is to populate threads with such mind-numbingly tedious balls that half the posters and the lurkers get fed up and therefore miss the important conversations and posts which get drowned out. Whatever it is, it takes a special person to think hogging thread after thread and interrupting conversation after conversation is going to be good for those threads and conversations.

FloralBunting · 26/09/2020 21:33

It's mostly on a thread rejoicing about a government department issuing clear, balanced and wise guidelines that protect children and young people. Takes a special kind of blinkered ideology to pretend that's an action designed to harm the disabled, LGB people, people of colour, because you're so pissed off about your special interest group no longer having access.

Kit19 · 26/09/2020 21:40

It’s not the first time.....they thrive on the attention....it’s why I don’t engage

JellyFishSquish · 26/09/2020 22:52

@Kit19

It’s not the first time.....they thrive on the attention....it’s why I don’t engage
You are right ARGGGGGH but it's so hard
334bu · 28/09/2020 15:48

Anyone know why rape volunteer thread has disappeared?

Kit19 · 28/09/2020 15:51

i wondered where it had gone as well. i didnt see anything on there that was problematic

334bu · 28/09/2020 15:55

Neither did I.

NecessaryScene1 · 28/09/2020 15:59

"We're taking this down while we contact the OP off the boards."

highame · 28/09/2020 16:00

Delirium I think you were offered bacon sandwich or bread 😂

Thank you-I am vegetarian but veggie bacon is fine by me

ErrolTheDragon · 28/09/2020 16:08

Maybe the OP had got something identifying in a post? Confused

Mammatino · 28/09/2020 16:47

Hehe sorry the bacon sandwich or bread was me. My mum is a veggie and it’s a bit of a standing joke that whatever we have we always give her what we are having...with a big glaring hole where the meat should be. We do then bring her a meat free alternative, it never gets old. Well it got old in 1998 but we keep on with it because we can’t think of any new jokes, you should hear my dads Christmas joke rendition.

highame · 28/09/2020 17:16

😂loved it, still laughing

persistentwoman · 28/09/2020 22:54

Thank heavens that's over! Grin So much frothing and attention seeking .

nauticant · 28/09/2020 22:58

I have thoroughly enjoyed the spectacle of a TRA write hundreds of posts that the DfE guidance changes nothing as far enabling gender critical arguments while at the same time will lead to the most shocking and wide ranging changes to just about anything other than gender critical stuff.

The purported superior knowledge and intellect combined with an underlying sense of someone panicking was a joy to read.

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 28/09/2020 23:02

Well done persistentwoman! Your posts were great, really informative, calm and factual Thanks

persistentwoman · 28/09/2020 23:07

Thank you MilleniumHallsWalledGarden I've been teaching and training about all this for years. It's hard to be concise at times so I do waffle on a bit Blush

HecatesHat · 28/09/2020 23:08

@persistentwoman

Thank you MilleniumHallsWalledGarden I've been teaching and training about all this for years. It's hard to be concise at times so I do waffle on a bit Blush
Agree, you were a calm voice of reason throughout. Lots of useful information on that thread Thanks
FloralBunting · 28/09/2020 23:12

I just kept hearing Magdalen on my shoulder, like those little angel things in cartoons, saying in that deadpan tone she had in the Alex Stonewall vid - "transplaining" so please feel free to read all my posts as laughing my arse off, because I was.

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 28/09/2020 23:16

Nevertheless that must have taken some stamina FloralBunting. I'm always in awe at you all. WineBrewGin

persistentwoman · 29/09/2020 00:12

FloralBunting
I am in awe of your combination of wit, clarity and passion - all on display there. So many good contributions.