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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

British police forces not welcoming 'gender critical' job applications

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SheWhoMustNotBeHeard · 16/08/2020 00:04

Sorry for the post and run as O have got to go to bed. I don't have the full story either

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/15/british-police-forces-not-welcoming-gender-critical-job-applications/

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Imnobody4 · 16/08/2020 11:25

Is it April 1st, the world has gone mad. I have no words anymore.
How have the police come to this, is this graduate fast tracking coming home to roost, how, why, when. I want to see heads roll, this is blatant sex discrimination, it is mainly women who are openly GC on social media, who like posts. Why are they not concerned about officers who don't believe in single sex spaces.

BovaryX · 16/08/2020 11:29

This is absolutely extraordinary. The police need to have an ongoing relationship with external reality. Instead, they are dancing to the tune of a niche lobby and public confidence in them to pursue and arrest criminals is at an all time low. The upper echelons of the police are apparently unaware of the collapse in public confidence in them to actually do their job. Do UK cops even understand what their job is anymore?

BovaryX · 16/08/2020 11:31

@Imnobody4

Is it April 1st, the world has gone mad. I have no words anymore. How have the police come to this, is this graduate fast tracking coming home to roost, how, why, when. I want to see heads roll, this is blatant sex discrimination, it is mainly women who are openly GC on social media, who like posts. Why are they not concerned about officers who don't believe in single sex spaces.
Well said
ItalianHat · 16/08/2020 11:33

This is outrageous. So feminists not welcome, then?

Wasn't there a thread here about this from the actual applicant a few days ago?

gardenbird48 · 16/08/2020 11:37

It stated that her views would likely result in her failing its “behavioural competency test”.
So it is specifically written into the recruitment/selection process that you have to accept that men can become women and it is a factor with such weight that you would not be selected if you don’t. Presumably even where you might be an outstanding candidate - this beggars belief!

SheWhoMustNotBeHeard · 16/08/2020 11:43

Agree with Floisme. It really doesn't matter why she asked, its the response that is the problem.

Public organisations such as the NHS and the police really need urgent reviews of their policies around the equality act and their interpretation of it.

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ThePurported · 16/08/2020 11:48

they are dancing to the tune of a niche lobby

The police are a major part of that lobby.

Officers can have multiple warrant cards so they can identify themselves as male one day and female the next.

Harry Miller's case was an opportunity for the police to put things right, but they didn't take it. They know exactly what they are doing.

BovaryX · 16/08/2020 12:00

@ThePurported

they are dancing to the tune of a niche lobby

The police are a major part of that lobby.

Officers can have multiple warrant cards so they can identify themselves as male one day and female the next.

Harry Miller's case was an opportunity for the police to put things right, but they didn't take it. They know exactly what they are doing.

Sadly, I think you are right. Increasingly, I regard the UK police as unfit for purpose. They are failing at the most basic level to do their job. At some point in the early part of the 21st century, their institutional philosophy became seriously compromised. And this extraordinary nonsense is just another example of that.
merrymouse · 16/08/2020 12:04

The worst part of this is that they don't seem to understand the law.

Neither the EA or the GRA claim that it is possible to change biological sex, as evidenced by the exceptions that both acts contained.

Floisme · 16/08/2020 12:05

Also I understand the police is now graduate only entry which, I am sad to say, looks likely to make matters worse.

BovaryX · 16/08/2020 12:10

floisme
There is a Douglas Murray article about indoctrination on campus in the same paper. Here is a snippet:

^There might be some excuse if they were, as a by-product, being trained to be open-minded, perceptive and creative individuals. But for many people university is an indoctrination-camp, not a place for mental stimulation. Those who attend them are being factory-farmed to have the same boring and malevolent views. For example, you have to have been educated at a British university to go home and inform your parents that “gender is a social construct”. Or that the whole curriculum is “colonial” and needs to be “decolonised”.
Rather than improve British societies, the automatons churned out by our universities are merely clogging up our country with bad thinking which becomes (when the graduates are employed) massive bureaucratic distraction-techniques. That British universities expand and make money out of this venture does not endear them to all of us^

merrymouse · 16/08/2020 12:11

I can't think of a situation where it would be necessary to proclaim that fact in the course of duty though? I absolutely believe it is fact, but the duty is to uphold the law, not proclaim/debate/discuss these facts.

No, but equally the police should respect your right to practice Christianity when you are not on duty.

Given the way that the police have followed up on complaints about GC people committing hate crimes, what would happen if the police received a complaint because an employee had attended a Woman's Place meeting?

Roswellconspiracy · 16/08/2020 12:22

Given the way that the police have followed up on complaints about GC people committing hate crimes, what would happen if the police received a complaint because an employee had attended a Woman's Place meeting?

Well we already know that lesbians in chairs will be forcibly removed from the premises whilst police stand by and do nothing as women are obstructed from entering or leaving a building as dozens of people bamg on windows and yell and chant the entire meeting

blubellsarebells · 16/08/2020 12:35

Are the police supposed to be encouraging recruits from black and minority ethnic backgrounds?
What with them having a massive racism problem.
How does this help with that?
Its like everything including common sense must fly out the wondow to appease a tiny minority of white men.
Im so sick of this world. Nothing makes sense.

Aesopfable · 16/08/2020 12:37

We need Maya’s appeal asap

SheWhoMustNotBeHeard · 16/08/2020 12:59

Might have known it was the same constabulary

British police forces not welcoming 'gender critical' job applications
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Floisme · 16/08/2020 13:08

Thanks for that link Bovary

Floisme · 16/08/2020 13:21

Mind you I disagree with Douglas Murray if he's really suggesting that this nonsense has emanated from the less prestigious unis. I would argue that some of the worst culprits are in the Russell Group.

BovaryX · 16/08/2020 13:22

No problem floisme, it seemed a fitting link because as you say, these views which dominate the police and vast chunks of the public and private sector are coming from 'universities.' Murray is on scathing form.....

Floisme · 16/08/2020 13:29

Yes he's on good form! I just think that, in this instance, taking a pop at the low prestige unis is a bit lazy and off the mark.

Floisme · 16/08/2020 13:48

Sorry if that sounds ungrateful - not intended to be!

BovaryX · 16/08/2020 14:02

*floisme
No, no problem! I think it's inevitable that many posters won't agree with all of his opinions, he is several degrees to the right of the centre, but he is usually entertaining.....

Theluggage15 · 16/08/2020 15:11

So the police are actually saying there’s no such thing as biological sex and furthermore, if you believe in biological facts such as the undeniable one that you can’t change sex then they’ll investigate you. The world has actually gone mad then.

DianasLasso · 16/08/2020 15:14

I found the "tell us who these serving officers are" bit particularly chilling.

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