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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Update from Allison Bailey

143 replies

Aesopfable · 05/07/2020 09:58

Didn’t see this on the current post about her fundraising but thought it deserved a post of its own.

mobile.twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1278317988429561857

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Aesopfable · 05/07/2020 10:02

It seems people took exception to her pointing out the number if she offenders that identify as trans and that women are locked up with these sex offenders. Crowdjustice also considered her highlighting the horrific threats and insults thrown at women as severely upsetting and offensive. (Not the threats themselves, you understand, it is pointing them out that is offensive)

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Aesopfable · 05/07/2020 10:03

Which rule of misogyny is it is about not pointing out Male violence because it makes men look bad?

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whatnow41 · 05/07/2020 10:41

Thanks for posting these, the treatment she has received is jaw dropping.

nauticant · 05/07/2020 10:44

Putting forward the gender critical position, even when it's based on commonly understood facts, makes the gender identity ideology look bad.

Making the gender identity ideology look bad is transphobic.

The only way to avoid transphobia is to agree with all of the tenets of the gender identity ideology or to be silent.

TheTamingOfTheresa · 05/07/2020 11:08

shocking. Sending support to Allison x

Shedbuilder · 05/07/2020 11:35

Sending support to Allison.

We do need to have another collection point so that we have somewhere to send the £1million* needed to tackle Garden Court, Stonewall and now CrowdJustice. Is there a way of sending money directly and cutting out the commission?

  • I know people who've used the civil courts and I know how much it can cost, so I'm aiming high.
highame · 05/07/2020 11:49

I really just do not get why she is being treated in the awful way. It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

Aesopfable · 05/07/2020 12:06

The up shot of the complaints about her seemed to be that by pointing out TRA behaviour she is making them look bad. And crowdjustice inexplicably think this gives them the moral high ground?

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andyoldlabour · 05/07/2020 12:12

CrowdJustice are getting absolutely hammered on Twitter.

mobile.twitter.com/CrowdJustice/status/1278404544976879616

fatblackcatspaw · 05/07/2020 12:38

oh GOOD!

bishopgiggles · 06/07/2020 22:53

Holy crap, just reading this now.
Are CrowdJustice run by a bunch of 12-year-olds? What on earth is with them writing a statement for Allison to claim as her own, which completely disregards any of the issues at hand?!

TehBewilderness · 06/07/2020 22:58

10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

Thelnebriati · 06/07/2020 23:15

Allison has been discriminated against. Discrimination is illegal.

highame · 06/03/2021 09:45

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1368118113015828480

This is the latest. She has published the letter Stonewall sent to Garden Court Chambers plus her response. Hope the link works

Adultfemale2020 · 06/03/2021 09:55

Pedantic I know but the stonewall letter was poorly written with terrible grammar.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 06/03/2021 10:17

Good god! Don't they realise that all of that comes across as one BIG threat? A badly written one at that!

Surely any court will see it as attempted coercion!?

IrenetheQuaint · 06/03/2021 10:19

That Stonewall letter reinforces my prejudice against people who use "yourselves" when they mean "you" Grin

CuriousaboutSamphire · 06/03/2021 10:24

Actually, having read it again, I think that might be deliberate!

Anyone reading it will be so annoyed at the piss poor literacy levels they will spend more time fuming over that than the actual content!

So they'll get away with all sorts of libellous behaviour because judges and juries will be wincing over "yourselves"

DeaconBoo · 06/03/2021 10:27

Thanks for this. Is there an "official" 3rd thread for the court case after this one:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4163253-Allison-Bailey-to-sue-Stonewall-thread-2?pg=1

got full up?

highame · 06/03/2021 10:31

Such a massive difference between SW letter and Allison Bailey's response. I am staggered that Stonewall seem to be so inept on so many levels and yet have captured Whitehall, local authorities, NHS and so many others. Beggars belief

highame · 06/03/2021 10:33

I just used this one rather than start another. Feel free to put it in a new thread

DeaconBoo · 06/03/2021 10:36

Omg, the grammar, the punctuation, it hurts! The conflating of "man" and "male"... also it seems odd to me to not also copy the text of the tweets but just provide links?

Whythesadface · 06/03/2021 10:48

Could Alison call a Forensic Scientist in to explain how they identify a dead body.
That if it was decomposed then it comes up as male or female.
That might be something that helps prove that presentation of the outer body does not remove the truth.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 06/03/2021 11:01

Just donated again there, keep going Allison x

Thingybob · 06/03/2021 11:10

Thanks for linking highame.

Reading that email, the bundle and Alison's rebuttal has really shaken me this morning, and I'm a tough bugger.

Nobody could read that and not be infuriated by the obvious injustice that Alison has suffered. I don't know how she's found the strength and determination to fight this but she's one amazing woman.

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