"My 15 yr old trans son is going through menopause - and I'm so proud of him"

[bettybeans]

http://www.essentialkids.com.au/health/health-wellbeing/my-15yearold-transgender-son-is-going-through-menopause--and-im-so-proud-of-him-20200416-h1nfe0

Christ almighty. I have been trying very hard not to go in heavy on parents of trans kids who make decisions that I simply don't understand but this whole situation just brought out absolute fury. The way she speaks about this process just enrages and saddens me in a way I can't adequately articulate. It's quite simply terrifying. I feel like I'm reading about a baptism or something.

This kid didn't stand a chance and it's absolutely heartbreaking.

Gah.
Tried but can't. Completely agree bettybeans - no words.

It’s the shortsightedness of it. Elation - for now. Minimising the side effects - “potential bone brittleness”, but no mention of sexual function, fertility, cardiovascular risk. Looking forward to testosterone - not one mention of the permanence of changes that brings. Writing a “look how wonderful life is” article - no thought that it may not be that way in 6 months, 12 months, longer, and putting it out in public brings pressure to continue the facade if things change.

It’s sad.

I can't imagine how it would be to see your child destroy their own body like this.One of my daughter's friends has gone through this process recently and the outcome had been grave, don't really want to say more than that as it's all very sad and recent.
I don't understand why our gender boundaries have to be so strong that anyone would consider this and I found the article just too sad to read.

A 15 year old is going thru the menopause..... ok then. WTF!

The article made me feel sick by the end. Such peculiar delusion. No, the kid didn't stand a chance.

That 'We can't wait' was just creepy.

Just awful.

That is awful. To just gloss over the many serious side effects... Words fail me.

Its mind boggling.

Born a girl but knowing from a young age that inside he definitely wasn't a girl

Surely it was her mother's job to tell her that she IS a girl, not facilitate hormones that put her through the menopause.

As the mother of an unborn daughter it fucking terrifies me that this is seen as good parenting.

Once we remembered to go back and read the literature, we realised that was the time his body was adjusting to the drug

Shitting hell, did you not 'read the literature' before having your kid injected with the drug.

Well that's grim. The enthusiasm with which some parents leap into all of this will make an excellent psychological study one day, once studying it is allowed.

Because what the world needs is more people who are truly comfortable being themselves – and who accept and celebrate others for doing the same.

Couldn't agree more. How far down the rabbit hole do you have to be to think "truly comfortable being themselves" means inducing menopause at 15 and a lifetime of synthetic hormone injections?

Also can these parents please stop using their teenage children's mental and physical health issues as clickbaity article material. This 15 year old is too young to consent to having the ins and outs of their medical treatments broadcast to the world and forever Google-able. It's such a vile invasion of privacy.

That's just tragic, that poor kid.

Where he was once depressed, disengaged and – as doctors put it – it "ambivalent about living", he is now happy, comfortable in his own skin, and optimistic about his future.

Perhaps because at 15 it's impossible to comprehend either the adult life being given up or the impossibility of changing sex.

Perhaps because at 15 it's impossible to comprehend either the adult life being given up or the impossibility of changing sex.

You're absolutely right. I felt miserable, depressed and disengaged at 15. Being a teenager, especially 13-16, is rough and you think the whole world is out to get you. Thank god I wasn't asked to make any irreversible, life-altering decisions at that time.

"My fifteen year old trans son is going through menopause - and I'm so proud of him."

Hmm, can you imagine that woman saying -

"My fifteen year old daughter has come out as a lesbian - and I'm so proud of her."

I can't.

What a future.
Mutilated body
Infertility
No sex drive or ability to have sex
Drop in IQ
Lack of brain maturity
Osteoporosis
Increased risk of heart disease, cancer, premature death.
Not to mention the mental anguish of realising these things in the years to come.
What kind of parent encourages their child to embark on this?

I was depressed, disengaged and ambivalent about living at 14. If someone had offered me free medical treatment to make me taller, thinner and have bigger breasts I would have taken it. I would have believed it would make my life worth living too.

Now I'm an adult, I see that would have been wrong, and I understand that psychological distress especially around the body is very common in teenage girls and usually passes with maturity. Because I'M NOT A COMPLETE IDIOT.

I'm going to wait to see comments from people agreeing with this mother posted here and see why they support and even promote this.

I know you're watching, please come and tell us why this woman is saving her child from self harming or suicide and why this is the better route to take than therapy.

Come on, you know you want to...

So this family has broken their pretty strict lockdown for CV for the injections. But is ok because the only side effect is potential bone brittleness. But vitamins, so ok.
Interestingly this is an Australian website.

As a mother of a child who has a life long medical condition which will gradually erode his health, this is hard to understand. My son's condition has the potential to damage every organ in his body. He has been taking medication since the age of five and will do for life. His condition has affected his mental health and he has chosen medication to help with that.

What parent would knowingly allow their child to take medication which causes lasting physical damage? Helping their 'ambivalence to life' isn't justification. It's like using a wrecking ball to crack a nut ffs.

Genuine question as I know so little about the transition thing, regarding the sex drive, would the testosterone injections not do that?

Taking Testosterone obviously has biological effects, some desired by the patient, some not. For a transman,calcium processing probably won’t deteriorate further once the t starts. But there is some evidence that the bone strengthening during the puberty years, missed whilst on the GNRHas can’t be compensated for later.

The lack of concern about the side effects is something that stood out last night when I read this piece. As a parent, she would have to have serious reservations that this cheerleading piece doesn’t delve into... surely?

The, we’ll just top up the vitamins to dispel the brittle bones.... Like the other side effects and impacts are nothing. I would love for the true life stories of the detransistioners to be published more widely in the mainstream (in a way that didn’t invade their privacy) and actually promoted rather than constantly swamped by transitioning bliss stories. I say this in the hope that these parents and the young transitioning people would actually read them, knowing that Keira said she was rather tunnel visioned and probably wouldn’t have. But maybe the parents would take note and realize that to support your child doesn’t mean minimising these risks.

Never in a breezy ‘we’ll up the vitamins to cope with that’ .. just like changing to a vegan diet (my addition there) way.

This teen is now on Lucrin, better known as Lupron. It is a “gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist”.
There is a paragraph of side effects on Wikipedia.
There is also a class-action lawsuit you can easily find the websites. “Turn off the poison tap”. And “The Science is Solid”

By the way this isn’t “trans kids” taking legal action, it’s others prescribed this drug. The parents of “trans kids” would have signed waivers because there have been no approvals for use on “trans kids”..