"My 15 yr old trans son is going through menopause - and I'm so proud of him"

[bettybeans]

http://www.essentialkids.com.au/health/health-wellbeing/my-15yearold-transgender-son-is-going-through-menopause--and-im-so-proud-of-him-20200416-h1nfe0

Christ almighty. I have been trying very hard not to go in heavy on parents of trans kids who make decisions that I simply don't understand but this whole situation just brought out absolute fury. The way she speaks about this process just enrages and saddens me in a way I can't adequately articulate. It's quite simply terrifying. I feel like I'm reading about a baptism or something.

This kid didn't stand a chance and it's absolutely heartbreaking.

Oh please... could you explain what you mean there Mr Wolf?

Apart from "it's all women's fault" do you have any point to make?

Oh, wolfs back for another go at a derail?

Wolf appears not to know what’s going on with the TRA ideology. Fair enough because it is insane. Not fair enough to keep berating women about it when it comes directly to us from the men’s rights movement and is for and about men.

Sigh. Suggest disengaging until he chooses to read up. He’s had plenty of suggestions.

I don't even understand what this person means. So is this a girl transforming into a male? It's scarey.

It is an autistic parent who thinks in fixed black and white gender roles and develops a special interest in trans when their child does not fit those roles.

I know someone who fits this pattern. His son was "obviously" a girl from a young age. Not if your criteria for recognising the sex of a child is biology, and any personality is allowed.

We've reached a point where a group of people isnt able to be criticized anymore, where inhumane practices are being seen as empowering, where pedophilia is considered a 'gender', where we capitalize on the loneliness and vulnerability of young men and women all for virtue signalling, and the main culprits are somehow still the victim of their own requests and urges.

You won't ever take responsibility for your actions because that would mean you'd have to admit that everyone is capable of being horrible people, instead of chalking up your fuck ups to the patriarchal system, which is being manipulated by the group of people that are the victims of every little tragedy, and never responsible.

A wise person once said if you want to find the people in power, the one's responsible for the direction of society, find who you can't criticize.

Hooooo boy... I've not seen one in the wild...

This thread has certainly attracted special attention.

It's like some bat(shit)-signal has been sent out.

Obviously some have more self awareness than others in this regards but often the loudest voices are those with the most rigid thinking and least able to consider other perspectives.

Challenges with theory of mind is another aspect often seen in those loudest (and angriest) voices. The inability to know and understand that what is perceived or learned from another person's point of view is different to one's own, or that your own knowledge and perspective is not mirrored in everyone else's mind.

There is rage and incomprehension that people will not think as they are told or have different perspectives - lesbians saying they know about female biology and have a specific sexual orientation is one. Females not taking the roles and views allocated to them is another. The mindless mantras repeated without comprehension that simply re stating one's own decision does nothing to change the view of someone else with a different opinion, perspective, life experience. Because there is no different opinion, there's just malfunction and lack of co operation with What Is.

Sickening

"A wise person once said if you want to find the people in power, the one's responsible for the direction of society, find who you can't criticize."

Only pity is that the person who said that had a tad evil "agenda":

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom#"True_Rulers"_quotation

Voltaire must have said something similar to "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" for it to be so routinely misattributed.

Gad! I miss the days when if something was not obviously Shakespeare, The Bible or Cervantes you could usually blag it by exclaiming "Pope!"

It does rather irk when the Devil has best tunes but no reason why they cannot be put to better purpose.

Wolf If you think the trans cult has been created and cultivated by feminism you are very confused. Is that what you think?

Wolfie can't bring himself to actually name the group he is alluding to but the funny thing is, if you assume he is talking about our dear friends the trans-rights activists then the message he posted at 20.23 makes perfect sense.

... It's like some bat(shit)-signal has been sent out...

Bantz!

Yes HorseRadish, I thought that too when I first read it.

Wolf still hasn't started his own why oh why aren't women doing what I want them to thread? Dude, I explained how days ago.

It is an autistic parent who thinks in fixed black and white gender roles and develops a special interest in trans when their child does not fit those roles.

This hadn't occurred to me before but you may have a point. Not for all the parents pushing this stuff, but for some there does seem to be a sort of fixated behavior combined with massive rigidity.

A lot of parents hold, promote & project rigid sex-based stereotypes.

A lot of parents hold, promote & project rigid sex-based stereotypes

I have to say I notice this alot with peope who have 2 or three boys then their last baby is a girl. Its wall to wall pink and dance and ballet etc always doing hair or posting pics of the kid in make up or new dresses or watching frozen etc and they give them cringe nick names. And lots of mummy and me time pics..

Never see a pic of the girl with short hair playing rugby with the brothers.

Most adults are unaware the extent to which they project sex-based stereotypes onto children.

Girl toys vs boy toys: The experiment - BBC Stories (from the 2 part series 'No More Boys and Girls - Can Our Kids Go Gender Free')

or the consequences for all children:

Didn’t watch the older children but the babies didn’t seem that interested in the toys they were being offered.

Because I had a Dd as well as a Ds we had all different toys in the house and as they were so close in age they played together so Ds would play tea parties and Dd would play trains.
The only complaint was from Dd who said boys toys were more interesting than girls toys. (Dd was never into dolls)

The video reminded me of a woman and her very young Dd who were in our local John Lewis toy dept where they would have some of the bigger toys out to play with.

Her Dd was dressed in dungarees and had a very short back and sides hair cut.

The mum was bemoaning that the little girl went straight for the toy kitchen when she was trying to get her interested in the trucks

I think she wanted a boy and the way she was talking, it was like her just walking child’s interest in a toy kitchen was somehow going to make her a failure in life.
The woman was definitely not cool with having a daughter.

I wonder from time to time how that child turned out.

I wonder if her mum has ever come to terms with having a daughter and accepted her as she is.
I wonder if the mother had ever had a Ds who turned out to still not be interested in trucks and “boys toys”
I wonder if the daughter had ever taken a fleeting interest in a “male” toy would her mother have whipped her down the clinic to start to transition her because she always knew she was a boy in a girls body.

Even Dd who was about 4 at the time picked up on it and said how sorry she felt for this little girl being told what toys she could or couldn’t play with.

I wonder if her mum has ever come to terms with having a daughter and accepted her as she is

If you look through mumsnet there are a fair few threads about people being disappointed in what the ultra sound reveals. In some areas they wont even divulge the sex to the parents. And so many peope actually angry when they take their baby out for a walk and people "mistake" what it is. Rather risk those deathtrap head bows than have some one assume their kid is a boy.

I live in an area where they don’t tell you the sex of your child unless you have an amnio.

I can understand why they don’t tell families what the sex is. I can never understand in some cultures why families put having girls as such a terrible thing that they would rather abort than go ahead with the pregnancy

I mean if no girls were ever born then their whole culture would die out.